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    HELP pleeeeese ..Disco2 ignition lock stuck

    URGENT Help please
    Not Happy Jan!!
    My 2001 Disco 2 Auto is parked at the local shopping strip and I cannot get the key to turn in the ignition.

    ( Did I read somewhere of a solenoid attached to the lock??? and a hotwire solution? or was that just another dream/nightmare??)

    So..
    Run the auto shift through the range and back to park ( even though it is not a "starting"" problem
    Wiggle the steering wheel.
    Put pressure on the wheel..both directions..to release lock pin..no go
    Walk home and get "new"spare key ( unworn) and some graphite powder

    Still no go. key will not turn ignition lock

    Key goes into ignition lock barrel OK but will not turn

    Any ideas please

    There have been one or two previous occasions some time ago..where the key would not turn but OK on second attempt and so I thought "worn key or needs graphite"

    Thanks
    Bob

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    The return spring may have broke ( happened to me 2 weeks ago ) but you will need to pull the lock apart to get to it but your Disco is fairly new so I dought it could be this

    Adam

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    Same thing happened to Mrs Rayngie's Flandie, after a couple of hours it 'released', and the key went back in no prob's, started up fine, ended up needing a whole new key barrel thingamajig...

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    Temporary fix

    Hey, thanks for the prompt replies. This Forum is really great in giving direction to your own problem solving...Thanks heaps.
    Thanks also waynep. I must have missed that thread in my search prior to posting.

    I spoke to a LR Dealer who indicated that it would most probably be a stuffed barrel and would need major attention via the shearbolts etc. Then I phoned a locksmith and he suggested the use of a BFH ( where B=big and H=hammer!)

    So a gentle/mild tap on the entry end of the cylinder with a ball-peen hammer was enough to loosen the (now graphite saturated) followers/wafers. On refitting the key, the springs pushed them into line with the key cut-outs and allowed the "shear-line" to line up and the barrel /cyl to rotate.

    Eureka!!!! I was able to start the car and get it home. Of course it now operates normally!

    He also said you could tap on the end of the key whilst it was fitted...but be careful of the plastic case and electronics inside....so I chose the first option.

    Locksmith says that at the front of the barrel , where the key enters, is a spring-loaded ball bearing and the force needed for the keyto enter the barrel often results in the bending of the first couple of spring-loaded key wafers next in line....and as a result they do not slide up and down to release the shear-line. Basically wear and tear.
    However the Disco has only just clicked over 100K

    An on-site rebuild will cost about $200-$250 and same key etc will remain.

    Hope this info helps someone else

    Cheers Bob

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    Thanks for the feedback on this Bob. I've got a friend who has a similar, intermittent, problem at the moment. Also good info for future reference.

    Cheers ............ BM
    Cheers .........

    BMKAL


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    This happened to me and I was able to get home by removing the plastic shrouding around the steering column, then with a hammer and oldscrew driver turn the special bolt which holds the whole ignition and lock assembly to the column. With this done the wheel can be turned without the steering locking. Then a couple of screws let you take the electical switch assembly off the back of the key barrel assembly. Once this is off a wide screwdriver can turn the electrical switch and start the vehicle. I left the key in the now separate barrel assembly because I believe it needs to communicate with a coil looking thing to allow you to drive.
    few days later with lube and playing around the barrel righted itself and I was able to put it all back together without too much butchering on the special headed bolt which holds the steering lock on.
    All up it takes a careful 15 minutes or so to get going and is easier than walking home. In my case I was stranded in the loading bay at my work and the prospect of having the Discovery moved by forklift would have been too humiliating!!!
    Hartley

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    Quote Originally Posted by discodancer View Post
    Hey, thanks for the prompt replies. This Forum is really great in giving direction to your own problem solving...Thanks heaps.
    Thanks also waynep. I must have missed that thread in my search prior to posting.

    I spoke to a LR Dealer who indicated that it would most probably be a stuffed barrel and would need major attention via the shearbolts etc. Then I phoned a locksmith and he suggested the use of a BFH ( where B=big and H=hammer!)

    So a gentle/mild tap on the entry end of the cylinder with a ball-peen hammer was enough to loosen the (now graphite saturated) followers/wafers. On refitting the key, the springs pushed them into line with the key cut-outs and allowed the "shear-line" to line up and the barrel /cyl to rotate.

    Eureka!!!! I was able to start the car and get it home. Of course it now operates normally!

    He also said you could tap on the end of the key whilst it was fitted...but be careful of the plastic case and electronics inside....so I chose the first option.

    Locksmith says that at the front of the barrel , where the key enters, is a spring-loaded ball bearing and the force needed for the keyto enter the barrel often results in the bending of the first couple of spring-loaded key wafers next in line....and as a result they do not slide up and down to release the shear-line. Basically wear and tear.
    However the Disco has only just clicked over 100K

    An on-site rebuild will cost about $200-$250 and same key etc will remain.

    Hope this info helps someone else

    Cheers Bob

    Glad to see its up and running Bob,,


    so its a case of "key entry force" damaging the internals,,,

    considering the number of D2's on the forum, this is pretty rare--
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    nice to know landrove still being vehicles capable of being repaired and made oeprational with simple set of tools like a hammer bang bang work you bastard

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pedro_The_Swift View Post
    Glad to see its up and running Bob,,


    so its a case of "key entry force" damaging the internals,,,

    considering the number of D2's on the forum, this is pretty rare--
    Had to do mine today. Couldn't find a locksmith willing to touch it so got to towed.

    Long story short, a replacement D2 barrel is 1500 ex UK. So the D2 now has a D1 barrel. Still ended up costing just shy of a grand though...

    Turns out the barrel is at a wierd angle so when you put a nice, hard, steel key into the soft alloy mechanisim you basically cut through it like a knife. Have a look at the plastic ring surrounding your ignition lock. You will probably find a heap of metal swarf accumilating.

    Mine has done 230k, and since I have owned it, it has given no hint of being temperamental until it failed.

    When I can find the time I intend to strip the old one and see if I can machine a steel sleeve to replace the alloy one.

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