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    shouldownacruiser Guest

    SII petrol discovery temperature sensor

    I tried this in the Discovery forum without any luck so I thought I would try here - any info appreciated. I assume the sensor is the same in other models using the 4L.

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    Hi All, is anybody able to tell me where the sensor is and how the disco system works. The reason I asked is that I have just totally cooked both heads, stretched all the head bolts etc etc and all while the temp guage sat dead normal. Looks like the problem was probably a thermostat. Is the sensor on the cool side of the thermostat???

    Thanks for any help. Depending on answers I may install another sensor/guage as this has been an expensive lesson dished out by the good old Disco design team.

    Merci

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    I'm am not familiar with the V8's but this is from the Rave CD....

    Inlet manifold - Cooling connections
    Coolant leaves the cylinder block via an outlet pipe attached to the front of the air intake manifold. The pipe is
    connected to the thermostat housing and the radiator by a branch hose off the radiator top hose.
    Hot coolant from the engine is also directed from the inlet manifold via pipes and hoses into the heater matrix. Coolant
    is circulated through the heater matrix at all times when the engine is running.
    A further tapping from the inlet manifold supplies coolant to the throttle housing via a hose. The coolant circulates
    through a plate attached to the bottom of the housing and is returned through a plastic bleed pipe to an expansion
    tank. The hot coolant heats the air intake of the throttle housing preventing ice from forming.
    An Engine Coolant Temperature (ECT) sensor is fitted in the inlet manifold adjacent to the manifold outlet pipe. The
    sensor monitors coolant temperature emerging from the engine and sends signals to the ECM for engine
    management and temperature gauge operation.



    You can get these from the Market Section....they are brilliant
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    On my Thor manifold, the sensor sits on top of the front of the manifold, just behind the water outlet pipe. If the water was low , I guess it would not be covered.
    Regards Philip A

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    thanks

    Thanks Guys I'll have a look and let you know but the sitting too high option sounds feasible

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    Quote Originally Posted by PhilipA View Post
    On my Thor manifold, the sensor sits on top of the front of the manifold, just behind the water outlet pipe. If the water was low , I guess it would not be covered.
    Regards Philip A
    Same problem exists with 300Tdi. The gauge may even drop, as the coolant no longer covers the probe when levels are low

    Fitting a low level warning gauge/ buzzer will protect these engines.

    JC
    The Isuzu 110. Solid and as dependable as a rock, coming soon with auto box😊
    The Range Rover L322 4.4.TTDV8 ....probably won't bother with the remap..😈

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    Thanks

    Thanks Philip - it is all starting to make sense now. Ever since I bought the vehicle it would slowly lose coolant. I assume it simply leaked out the overflow or from one of the myriad of radiator hose joins, but nonetheless every couple of months I had to put in a litre or so of coolant. When it cooked I am pretty sure it had been a while since I had added any coolant and it may have been a little low. That said there was still plenty of coolant there as when it blew a hose (as a result of compression gases leaking into the water jacket when the head gaskets went) coolant went everywhere.
    I'll have to figure out a way to get a sensor mounted lower in the engine's water table (and hope the mechanics who put it back together have used enough gasket goo to seal any water leaks from the hoses).

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    A litre over a couple of months is not a slow leak. There will be coolant tracks everywhere from the leak area, unless its the dreaded loose sleeve.
    I suggest that a coolant level indicator on the header tank may be a help. My old 92 Range Rover Classic has one, and it will indicate before anything when the coolant is low.
    There is somone on this forum who sells them.
    Regards Philip A

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    shouldownacruiser Guest

    gotta love em

    Thanks again - I don't recall seeing great coolant tracks everywhere which is why I suspected the overflow. I may have overstated the quantity but not by much - I had to top up the header tank every couple of months. The sleeves?? Do you mean the cylinder sleeves? Hopefully if that is the issue the mechanic would have picked it up when the heads were off? Isn't just so tempting to drop a big block turbo diesel in?

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    Low Water Alarms

    For anyone interested in this thread I contacted

    David Jones
    Enginesaver Low Water Alarms
    Ph\Fax 0747766334
    Mobile 0427159668
    enginesaver@bigpond.com

    who operates his business from FNQ. He makes in-line and under hose units and has some deal going at the moment with this site (see banner at top). I ordered a unit yesterday for $150 including postage and I am told it is in the post today. I'll post another message once I get it as to the units quality etc

    Cheers

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    Shouldownacruiser,

    Another option would be to buy a ScanGauge II unit which you can use to display the exact coolant temperature.

    The Land Rover gauges do not show a linear relationship between coolant temperature on the gauge.

    The temperature gauge on the DII in particular, will show the middle mark and not budge at all once the coolant temperature hits 70 deg C. The needle on the temperature gauge will remain at the middle mark from 70 deg C to when the engine has fully warmed up, which is circa 95 deg C.

    I use a Scangauge II to tell me exactly what the coolant temperature is, as it shows numbers that move up and down depending on vehicle speed.

    For my vehicle, it displays around 91 to 92 deg C when driving steadily at 100 km/hr on the freeway. When stopped at the lights for an extended period, it shows 98 deg C. So I know that in stop start traffic, my engine can vary coolant temperatures anywhere between these two extremes.

    This doesn't change much even when the ambient temperatures outside could be a chilly 11 degs in winter mornings or 40 deg C in Melbourne's occasional heat waves.

    So what this tells me is that the cooling system has more than enough capacity to handle the very hot days.

    I only fitted this ScanGauge II product after my V8 slipped a cylinder liner and my block had to be replaced (I wanted stepped cylinder liners after the slippage incident). What really cheesed me off was that the liner had slipped without any overheating incident.

    Get yourself a Scangauge II.

    Lawrance

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