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    Salisbury diff and ARB locker

    At the moment I'm fitting an ARB diff lock to the back of my Defender 110. It is a Salisbury diff. Now according to the instructions I need to do the following:

    1. Using a caliper or similarly accurate measurement method, measure the distance from the original diff bearing shoulder to the ring gear mounting face and record this measurent as 'A'.

    2. Measure the thickness of the shim pack removed from the ring gear side of the diff carrier and record this measurement as 'B'.

    3. Measure the distance from the Air Locker bearing shoulder to the ring gear mounting face and record this measurement as 'C'.

    4. The thickness of the shim pack required for the Air Locker can be determined by the following:

    A + B - C = shim pack


    Problems I have at the moment are the following:

    1. To get measurement A + C is near impossible accurately - reason being that no caliper I have has jaws long enough to reach both the surfaces. Best I've been able to do is use a R/H rule and judge from that - hence I'm worried if it's accurate enough.

    2. I had a 1.2mm shim pack on both sides of the diff.

    3. Adding the sums up, that being:

    A = 35.2mm
    B = 1.2mm
    C = 30.5mm

    That means that there is a difference of 4.7mm between the two diffs before I even look at the current shim measurement. According to there scenario, I am going to need a 5.9mm shim pack on that one side before I even look at the other side - that seems kinda excessive.

    However I may have the measurements wrong - so if anyone knows of or has better measurements feel free to let me know please - however I don't think I'm that far off!

    BTW for interest sake - bearings as follows:

    387A - Cone
    382S - Cup

    Cost is approx. $57 per set

    Cheers
    Chris

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    I'm guessing by the views on this one that no-one's done this job before!!!

    I'm just going to go back to basics and install the bearings with no shims and set it up from scratch the old fashioned way!

    Cheers
    Chris

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    Its been many moons since ive played with a sals tho there all the same method and yep the size you stated sounds big but if the shimming isent corect you wont get a proper contact of CW&P resulting in problems easy way would be to drop in the center without the CW and then mesure how much shimm will be needed to fill the void between the housing and center then you will know how much shimm you will need intotal then refit the CW and get the contact patch right by adding the shims in may be a bit of buggering round tho the end result should last a long time

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    Hi Chris,

    I have fitted a maxi-drive, but as the same (modified) centre is reused, youi just refit using the same shims. Personally I would set everything up from scratch for an ARB, to make sure it is spot on, but that is just me.

    I would contact Keith (username: Revor). He has set up heaps, so he would probably be the best person to ask.

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    Found out the hard way today - the ARB RD20 diff is 6mm longer than the Salisbury that came out.

    Got me stuffed how that can be, but now I'm having to do some serious adjusting. I placed it in and the damn thing wouldn't come back out, had me scratching my head trying to work out what was going on.
    I'm grabbing the spreader tomorrow to grab it out - looks like I pretty much won't be using any shims at all to set it up with.

    When I placed it in, the pinion and crown wheel was pretty much locked up. I had a 2.4mm shim pack on the crown wheel side which was what the measurements came up with - guess I mucked it up somewhere (probably converting thou" to mm). Took some serious pressure to get it to turn.

    Still, I will have it sorted in the morning hopefully and up and running tomorrow arvo all going well.

    Cheers
    Chris

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    as a tip for future work..

    when you rebuild a diff thats running nicely(say your putting in an ARB or changing the side gears) and reuse the crown wheel and pinion make a habit of bluing 1/3rd of the teeth on the crown wheel then walking that past the pinion and letting the pinion imprint the blue onto the "clean" teeth of the diff.

    take a picture of the transfered contact patch and when you set it up redo the bluing, if you dont get the contact patch looking exactly the same adjust the diff till you do...

    Ive seen it done where resetting the diff to spec has put the contact patch out and the diff howls
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    Yep - found that out the hard way today. Been kicking myself since..........

    Should have known better - I can just hear a few instructors from Latchford Bks now...........

    Cheers
    Chris

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blknight.aus View Post
    as a tip for future work..

    when you rebuild a diff thats running nicely(say your putting in an ARB or changing the side gears) and reuse the crown wheel and pinion make a habit of bluing 1/3rd of the teeth on the crown wheel then walking that past the pinion and letting the pinion imprint the blue onto the "clean" teeth of the diff.

    take a picture of the transfered contact patch and when you set it up redo the bluing, if you dont get the contact patch looking exactly the same adjust the diff till you do...

    Ive seen it done where resetting the diff to spec has put the contact patch out and the diff howls
    Seeing as your not moveing the pinion height, simply takeing a backlash measurement and assembleing the same will suffice

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    Quote Originally Posted by rovercare View Post
    Seeing as your not moveing the pinion height, simply takeing a backlash measurement and assembleing the same will suffice
    Yup, same.... except with the old 5 fingered feeler gauge.
    Cheers
    Slunnie


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    Quote Originally Posted by Slunnie View Post
    Yup, same.... except with the old 5 fingered feeler gauge.
    Dial gauge works the best tho the the 5 finger feel gauge gets em within a micky hair if ya know what ya dooing

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