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Thread: S3 died on the way home

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    I'm not even doing too well online - AULRO is as slow as a wet week for me tonight...

    Mike90RR - Thanks for all your suggestions. The motor is original i.e. 1974 but hasn't done a huge amount of K's as far as I know - about 40,000 on the clock. It has been running fine to date.

    Blitz - Thank you. My thoughts as well but plenty of fuel comes out of the carbi side of the filter when I unscrew the hose fitting. Jets? ...how do I check/clean them?

    AlexH - Thanks for your hint. The 6 cylinder has an odd shaped rotor doesn't it? ...and, of course, I don't have a spare.

    Landy Andy - Thanks for your idea. I hope it will be that simple... There is some oil in the dashpot. Whether there is enough I will have to check. What kind of oil do you recommend? I've read conflicting advice over whether to use engine oil or only 'light' oil.

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    What kind of oil for dashpot?

    The "Haines" manual says for "Zenith Stromberg" ... Normal engine oil filled to 6mm of the top

    If you have a spare carby, grab one for the "Rubber diaphram" just in case it's cuput (white smoke)

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    Okay Mike, thanks!

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    Dave
    Have you proved that you have spark at the plugs individualy and if you have a timing light try it an each lead to ckeck if they are firing. I hand a similar problem rescently and it turned out to be leads breaking down under load. Hope this helps
    Maurice

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    Hi Dave
    Light oil is reccomended,Ive read sewing machine oil on here before.
    Had to fix mine once before by droping some sump oil via the sump bolt into a freshly emptied beer can
    Try topping up before anything else!!!!
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    Well I spent 4 hours at the vehicle today and didn't achieve much.
    I filled the dashpot with light oil - it was very low - it made no difference.
    Swapped the coil and all the HT leads - no difference.
    Cleaned the rotor button and visually checked the points open and close.
    Changed the fuel filter - it was very dirty - no difference.
    Sprayed carbi cleaner into the carbi - no difference.
    Removed the exhaust (because this was the last thing fiddled with) - no difference except it's noisier.
    Removed and cleaned spark plugs - all okay and pink except No.5 which was oily and dirty (could have picked this up on the way out).
    Removed the small capacitor from the dizzy - now it wont start so I put it back.
    Removed the carbi horn and sprayed in more carbi cleaner.

    Somewhere along the way there has been a slight improvement in that she will idle with no choke now. The idle lasts for maybe 3 minutes getting progressively rougher and slower, then dies. If I rev the engine it will rev okay for maybe a minute, although I can hear misfiring, then it suddenly dies like I switched off the ignition. I can turn the ignition key off then on, wait for the fuel pump to stop ticking and she will start again, first turn of the key, and do exactly the same thing - idle for three minutes and die or rev for a minute and die.
    Am I seeing fuel starvation here?

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    Sounds like blocked jets, try syringing some fuel into the carb throat while it's running. I say that as it sounds like it has improved a bit since you've sprayed carbi cleaner at it, could be the rough track has stirred up sediment in the tank.
    Good luck with it, it's always a pia on the roadside.

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    Dave you have a started a good fault finding 6 cyl thread without realising it. Stuff to remember for when i get mine going!
    Hmm have absolutely no idea on these motors, but ,
    from reading each point and symptom you describe, this is only a guess, though, a along the same lines as yours,
    fuel starvation, have you checked the output on the fuel pump, if its the orginal,it may not be earthing properly on the bracket it sits on and once the motor starts it could be vibrating shorting out and stopping the flow.
    Its the idel thats seems to give it away, starts ok then rough then stops.

    just a guess on something you haven;t covered.


    john

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    symptoms are possibly caused by failure of the booster diaghfram also could have some brake fluid in the booster

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    Dave
    I take it that you got her home OK ?

    I usually associate miss-firing to electrical or inlet valve problems
    Blast ... we gave out enough suggestions to raise the Titanic / Go Figure???

    Dirty fuel filter , have shook all the dirt up the line? Being a carby, they don't require much pressure to fill so
    Can you test it via slinging a can of petrol from above and gravity feed the carby??? you can't drive it, but you can rev it

    In the end, You may have to do a full inspection of the fuel, electrics, & distributor parts

    ALSO did you change the dizzy cap, rotor button , test vacume advance ???

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