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    Is a Salisbury a Salisbury

    Is a rear Salsbury diff from a Series III the same as a 1995 130 fender.

    Obviously the axle tubes etc are different, and the axles are different lengths
    but is the actual differential the same.

    I can pick up a complete series III axle with maxidrive locker for a price that is hard to sneeze at. I already have maxidrive axles (with locking splines on short shaft) in my sals. Will I be able to weld on an actuator bracket to my housing, bolt entire diff up to my housing and be locked?

    I guess the pertinent questions are:

    Are they the same ratio?
    Do they accept the same size axle (spline and root diameter)?
    Is the actual diff housing the same?


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    Short answer is no - they are different

    Long answer is that there are 2 different flange positions for the diff centre of the salisbury (and Dana 60) - 4.5:1-7.17:1 ratios have 1 flange position and 3.54:1-4.3:1 have another.

    Since the locking dog mates with the half of the hemisphere with the flange, the series locker is no good to you unless you want to run a ratio between 4.56 and 7.17, (e.g. 4.7:1 like the series does)

    110 is 3.54:1, series is 4.7:1
    Other than the ratio and flange differences they are both the same. County salisburies actually have the same length short side axle tube (and axle) to series.
    Coiller housings of course have different suspension mounts though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by isuzurover View Post
    Short answer is no - they are different

    Long answer is that there are 2 different flange positions for the diff centre of the salisbury (and Dana 60) - 4.5:1-7.17:1 ratios have 1 flange position and 3.54:1-4.3:1 have another.

    Since the locking dog mates with the half of the hemisphere with the flange, the series locker is no good to you unless you want to run a ratio between 4.56 and 7.17, (e.g. 4.7:1 like the series does)

    110 is 3.54:1, series is 4.7:1
    Other than the ratio and flange differences they are both the same. County salisburies actually have the same length short side axle tube (and axle) to series.
    Coiller housings of course have different suspension mounts though.

    I'me confused, the salisbury houesing are the same (except for the coil and leaf) suspension mounts....I would have thought you would have been able to swop CWP, to the serries center without any problem....what flange positions are you talking about??

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    Quote Originally Posted by Panda View Post
    I'me confused, the salisbury houesing are the same (except for the coil and leaf) suspension mounts....I would have thought you would have been able to swop CWP, to the serries center without any problem....what flange positions are you talking about??

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    The flange that the crownwheel bolts to.

    The same goes for a rover 4.7 and 3.54 diff. You can bolt a 4.7 CW to a 3.54 centre with a spacer, but not the other way around.

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    Quote Originally Posted by isuzurover View Post
    The flange that the crownwheel bolts to.

    The same goes for a rover 4.7 and 3.54 diff. You can bolt a 4.7 CW to a 3.54 centre with a spacer, but not the other way around.

    OK the hemispher, bugger I thought all the centers were the same, just differant CWP ratios, I will have to go an have a look....lean something new every day.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by roverrescue View Post
    I already have maxidrive axles (with locking splines on short shaft) in my sals.
    I think you mean locking splines on the LONG shaft??? Unless you somehow have a rover axle fitted to your sals?

    Both Series and county/defender MD lockers had the locking dog on the long-side axle (engaging to the half of the hemisphere with the crownwheel). Rover rears had the locking dog on the short side though.

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    Good point on locking splines... was thinking back to rover axle i had on the disco.
    Either way I know I have lockable maxi axles, but it seems that converting the series sals to 130 aint gonna happen. So, I will then let all know series III rear axle assembly including maxi-drive locker - $500, located in Cairns. PM and Ill get the guys number for you.

    S
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    I read somewhere or other that for the coiler Salisbury diff, Land Rover changed the 24-spline side gears to a different 24-spline. No, I don't know how or what or why, just a reference to it departing from the SAE standard for that size spline. I don't know it it's true, but thought I should mention it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Davo View Post
    I read somewhere or other that for the coiler Salisbury diff, Land Rover changed the 24-spline side gears to a different 24-spline. No, I don't know how or what or why, just a reference to it departing from the SAE standard for that size spline. I don't know it it's true, but thought I should mention it.
    NO - the 24spl is the same on series and coiller sals axles.

    I think you are confused with the defference between Sals/rover 24 spline. According to Mal Story, when the Rover diffs got 24 spline side gears, they used a non SAE pressure angle etc...

    Mal said he made all his (rover) lockers with the salisbury (SAE) 24 spline dimensions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by isuzurover View Post
    ... County salisburies actually have the same length short side axle tube (and axle) to series...
    NEW INFORMATION ????

    Am I to understand that in the County models the Salisbury is more offset to the RHS (i.e. Not in line with the output on the transfercase) and that the prop shaft runs at an angle to the RHS?

    Diana

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