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    What makes some 4.6 V8s high compression?

    Hi people, during my dyno-tune debriefing the other day Graeme C mentioned that hi compression 4.6s would be better for LPG than low compression engines.

    That raises the question in my head, what is the actual difference between the high compression Rover 4.6L V8s and the low compression 4.6 V8s?

    Would it be worthwhile (possible/cost effective) conerting a low compression to high compression before it was fitted to my project vehicle?

    Diana

    P.S. The engine in question is a 4.6 block with 3.9 heads and ancilliaries from a Disco I.

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    the difference is in the pistons - rest should be the same.

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    IIRC the piston are different between the low and hi comp engines. The low comp pistons (obviously) have a deeper dish in the top of the piston than the hi comps.

    Can't give you exact figures but i had to reduce the combustion chamber volume on my 3.9head to 28cc (From 32cc's) to bring the comp ratio up to around 9.5:1. The amount of material removed worked out to be almost the exact thickness of a compressed composite gasket.(my 3.9 originally had tin gaskets)

    I was fortunate in that my manifold fitted up fined between the heads after machining, i have heard of other having nightmares trying to get the manifold to seal after the heads have been machine "too" much.
    You will also need to shim up your rocker pedestals to maintain correct lifter preload

    If you could source a set of hi cmp pistons cheap and get any machining done on the cheap i would go that way

    Luke

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    Quote Originally Posted by LRHybrid100 View Post
    the difference is in the pistons - rest should be the same.

    HTH

    LRH

    So if that is all that is different, would it be worthwhile swapping over the pistons while the engine is out for the Hi-Comp ones. Or would the cost of the work and the pistons, plus the fact that you need to use premium grade petrol, be more than the savings and benefits when I use LPG?

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    When I had my 4.6 rebuilt, I opted for HC pistons ($800 including rings and gudgeon pins from Bruce Davis) as I was planning sequential LP gas injection.

    It doesn't worry me paying a bit more for high octane petrol as I use so little of it.
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    Hmm, this is typical. You need a hi comp for gas and I need a low comp to work with my blower. Most rebuilt 4.6s these days seem to be hi comp. You just need the pistons I would not shave the heads as may have issues later on. Just my thoughts. Tony

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    Hmm, what did I do with the old LC pistons?
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    Quote Originally Posted by p38arover View Post
    ...It doesn't worry me paying a bit more for high octane petrol as I use so little of it.
    Ron

    What I'm trying to do is make this vehicle and engine as simple as possible, so will be using a regular vapour system. I was thinking of trying to do the Canning Stock Route sometime in the future and having LPG delivered to well 23 (or whichever one,) is currently out of the question. The vehicle will have about 200Lt LPG capacity but only about 150Lt petrol. If it has to have premium to run on then that may be an issue, excluding the cost.

    So the question remains - is it worthwhile spending $1,000 to convert the 4.6 engine to HiComp if it is to run 95%+ on LPG with the CSR calculated in?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lotz-A-Landies View Post
    The vehicle will have about 200Lt LPG capacity but only about 150Lt petrol. If it has to have premium to run on then that may be an issue, excluding the cost.
    There is a guy here in Perth who aparently makes LPG jerry cans. I have just contacted my customer who told me about them only yesterday! He has the details somewhere and will call me when he finds them.
    As soon as I know, I will post it here and PM you.

    Andrew.

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    Anyone know what engine number prefix would id a low or hi comp engine?

    What compression ratio does the engine end up with using 3.9 heads and flatties?

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