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  1. #11
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dougal View Post
    The defender calipers will be plenty. With them my 2.3t RRC pulls up just as hard as my japanese shopping trolley.

    Vented rotors will not stop you faster, they will reduce fade under repeated braking though.
    My experiences with EBC pads on mountainbikes mean they're the last brand I'd put in one of my vehicles. Poor stopping, poor life and they fade where original pads don't.

    Vented get hot at low speed anyway. We are talking slots in rotors to help this one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rovercare View Post
    So you've never had them on a Rover?, ahh, ok
    They claim to use the same compounds.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dougal View Post
    They claim to use the same compounds.
    Not sure what you mean buy same compounds. Looking at the web site they have pads for certain aplications.EBC Brakes | Automotive Product Selector | Ultimax, Greenstuff, Redstuff, Yellowstuff, Bluestuff, Industrial, Brake Pads | Car Disc Rotors | Brake Fluid

    I welcome constructive discussion on this issue. I dont care if they chop out in 20 000 kms but it has to stop.
    Cheers Tony

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rangier Rover View Post
    Not sure what you mean buy same compounds. Looking at the web site they have pads for cetain aplications.EBC Brakes | Automotive Product Selector | Ultimax, Greenstuff, Redstuff, Yellowstuff, Bluestuff, Industrial, Brake Pads | Car Disc Rotors | Brake Fluid

    I welcome constructive discussion on this issue. I dont care if they chop out in 20 000 kms but it has to stop.
    Cheers Tony
    It's the EBC greenstuff that was woefully inadequate in mountainbikes. Reviews I found of them in small sportscars were also far from positive.

    The larger calipers have 25% more piston area, you will not need more aggressive pads with those unless you're running monster tyres or have less than 30kg to apply to the brake pedal.

    I'm running mintex pads (the standard items from paddock spares), the larger calipers and vented front rotors. I can lock wheels when I want to, even with a 400kg Isuzu engine and gearbox holding it down.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DRanged View Post
    Your on the right track. I have fitted 110 calipers and an early Disco booster with 3 port master cylinder. We also have an adjustable proportioning valve. Running 35,s it pulls up well even with the Isuzu up front.

    Justin
    I have just aquired a 94 Disco salvage so hope it has the booster we need. I have the 110 calipers (Single lines) here now and 1990 vented disc. I think they fit up. I was going to keep the 1989 master cylinder but not sure now.
    Where did you get the adjustable proportioning valve from?
    Thanks Tony

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    Have you measured the pistons in the 110 calipers to confirm the piston size? Only a certain vintage 90/110/130's have the larger pistons, the rest are the same size as the average rangie/disco brakes.

    Big = 45mm pistons
    Normal = 41.3mm pistons.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dougal View Post
    Have you measured the pistons in the 110 calipers to confirm the piston size? Only a certain vintage 90/110/130's have the larger pistons, the rest are the same size as the average rangie/disco brakes.

    Big = 45mm pistons
    Normal = 41.3mm pistons.
    I sure will measure them 1st. Going by part no they should be 45mm. They are still in a box like most of the Rangie
    Thanks Tony

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dougal View Post
    It's the EBC greenstuff that was woefully inadequate in mountainbikes. Reviews I found of them in small sportscars were also far from positive.

    The larger calipers have 25% more piston area, you will not need more aggressive pads with those unless you're running monster tyres or have less than 30kg to apply to the brake pedal.

    I'm running mintex pads (the standard items from paddock spares), the larger calipers and vented front rotors. I can lock wheels when I want to, even with a 400kg Isuzu engine and gearbox holding it down.
    I put EBC pads in and it stops better, can't really complain

    Locking wheels on 205/225ish tyres is hardly a challenge, try it with 35"s

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    Matt are you still running 86 RRC solid disc and calipers?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rangier Rover View Post
    Matt are you still running 86 RRC solid disc and calipers?
    Yea, slotted solids, it's not all that flash, go with the bigger calipers, I just kept the originals as I like the backup brake cct, its come in handy a couple of times, might change one day

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