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    Shocks, no not the normal which ones Q

    Will shocks run upside down

    Or do they need to run right way up for valving to operate correctly.
    Cheers Baz.

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    depends on the shock

    i think nitrogen ones will, oil no..

    cheers phil

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    OK, I'm trying to get around the mounting issue and figured that welding the pin mount on the end that doesn't have oil/gas would be an option, well at least a safer option
    Cheers Baz.

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    Most wont run proper they all have oil in em the nitro just stops the oil from foaming

    Ya better off with the right shock for the Job pro comp make plenty of different sizes and at a good price look up shane at suspensionstuff.com

    Heres a link for ya baz https://www.suspensionstuff.com.au/shop/

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    Quote Originally Posted by lokka View Post
    Most wont run proper they all have oil in em the nitro just stops the oil from foaming

    Ya better off with the right shock for the Job pro comp make plenty of different sizes and at a good price look up shane at suspensionstuff.com
    Not for a D2 and a 4" lift they don't, rear is fine but the front is another story

    Baz.
    Cheers Baz.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Redback View Post
    Not for a D2 and a 4" lift they don't, rear is fine but the front is another story

    Baz.

    What are they pin top eye bottom for the d2 ???

    maby worth making up some new front turrets to take an eye up top i cant see it being all that hard to do what sort of length are you after at full stretch ??

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    Quote Originally Posted by lokka View Post
    What are they pin top eye bottom for the d2 ???

    maby worth making up some new front turrets to take an eye up top i cant see it being all that hard to do what sort of length are you after at full stretch ??
    No Chris, eye to eye with a crosspin, bottom mount has a pin through the eye.

    Open length needs to be 640mm......25"

    Closing length needs to be 393mm.....15"

    254mm or 10" of travel minimum
    Cheers Baz.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Redback View Post
    No Chris, eye to eye with a crosspin, bottom mount has a pin through the eye.

    Open length needs to be 640mm......25"

    Closing length needs to be 393mm.....15"

    254mm or 10" of travel minimum
    A GQ patrol rear may come close. You may have to change height of the top mount though. They come in a few lengths. I can't find my book

    Tony

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    The valves within shockers are a two-way flow restrictor, they don't care which way is up, more of an issue is where the location of the gas and the oil within the unit- obviously the gas sits above the oil. Not sure what the effect of inverting the whole arrangement would be. Gas shockers have oil, the pressuruised gas is there to reduce foaming of the oil under harsh use. The oil flowing through restrictive orifices (?orifi) is what does the damping.
    I haven't heard of anyone trying it but I'm sure it would be asking for disaster to weld a shock absorber whilst it is assembled.
    I would suggest finding a suspension specialist with the facility to dismantle and reassemble- and repressurise- shock absorbers and then you could make the necessary modifications to the housing without any other components inside it to be destroyed or to explode in your face.
    Bilsteins are able to be dismantled and rebuilt- Quadrant Suspensions in Berwick, Vic are an agent, pretty sure they do the work on site. They would probably even be able to make the necessary structural mods to suit.
    Might well be easier and cheaper- especially in the long term- to modify the mounts to accept an easily available model of shocker.

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    There are emulsion shocks which are usually twin tube and there are monotube gas.

    The emulsion shocks have an air gap in them which has to be at the top. If you try to run them upside down the foot valve runs in air and doesn't work properly.
    If your shocks don't self-extend then they're emulsion type.

    The monotube gas shocks have high pressure in them with a piston to seperate the gas and oil. These can be run anyway you want if they're in good condition.

    I have welded shocks before that are monotube gas. But I did it very carefully and I wasn't welding to the shock body, just the pin.

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