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    **Discovery300Tdi** Guest

    noise from either belt or pulley

    hey all yesterday my main fan belt some how started to come off one of the pulleys and started to shred. Its a 95 disco 300tdi. I got a new belt put her in now im getting a squeking sound comin from that area but dont know if its just the new belt that needs to be warn in or one me the pulleys. When started from cold the sound is very low but as she warms up it gets louder. Thanks guys

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    **Discovery300Tdi** Guest
    well just found out its tension pulley which is the problem got prices now are they a pain to install yourself? Is it of matter me just undoing the one nut and pulling her off?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Disco Sim View Post
    well just found out its tension pulley which is the problem got prices now are they a pain to install yourself? Is it of matter me just undoing the one nut and pulling her off?
    Yep, really easy to do yourself.

    Relieve the tension in the serpentine belt at the tensioner
    take belt off or just move out of way
    undo bolt that holds tensioner onto front of engine
    remove old tensioner, but note orientation
    replace with new one, installing same way as old one came off
    do up bolt
    relieve tension again (like removing belt)
    and put belt back on.

    Should take 5-10mins.

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    horgan Guest
    Hey Disco Sim,

    Might be worth investigating a little further. Something more sinister may be brewing.

    Maybe it was just the tensioner - easy fix - but...

    Maybe the tensioner is bottoming out with the oversized belt. Check your belt sizes. There are two length of belts - 1580 and the 1595 - because there are two alternator pulley sizes out there. My disco 97 needed the 1580. The tensioner marks should line up when you put the correct belt size on. I use DAYCO belts (the "1580" size is actually 7PK1575, ERR5911).

    Most importably - Check out your harmonic ballancer pulley - the big one at the bottom. Keep your eye on it when the engine is ticking over - make sure it is running dead true (with the belt installed and the tensioner on). With the belt off, give the balancer a wobble. It should stay firm. The nut should always be dead tight (clockwise to tighten).

    I had just found that my balancer loosened itself and was flogging about. It has now knackered the crankshaft. 300tdi flogged dampener and crank


    Cheers

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    **Discovery300Tdi** Guest
    thank you all for your responses i got the belt from land rover in port melbourne now i hope they know what they are doing there cause i told them the make model and the rest of the info and they gave me a belt. Now i can see the marks on the pulley and they dont line up and the tension pulley jumps around a lot when in idle but with acceleration it stops vibrating gotta love learning new things

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    Quote Originally Posted by horgan View Post
    Maybe the tensioner is bottoming out with the oversized belt. Check your belt sizes. There are two length of belts - 1580 and the 1595 - because there are two alternator pulley sizes out there. My disco 97 needed the 1580. The tensioner marks should line up when you put the correct belt size on. I use DAYCO belts (the "1580" size is actually 7PK1575, ERR5911).
    Didn't the belt size change after a certain vin number?

    Quote Originally Posted by Disco Sim View Post
    thank you all for your responses i got the belt from land rover in port melbourne now i hope they know what they are doing there cause i told them the make model and the rest of the info and they gave me a belt. Now i can see the marks on the pulley and they dont line up and the tension pulley jumps around a lot when in idle but with acceleration it stops vibrating gotta love learning new things
    I also just checked mine and found neither Discos I have, had the marks on the tensioners line up?

    Horgan, are you sure the marks are meant to line up? If so, I have two Discos with the wrong length belts?

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    **Discovery300Tdi** Guest
    just checked out the rave cd and it stated that when the notches are lined up together its time to change the belt

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    Quote Originally Posted by Disco Sim View Post
    just checked out the rave cd and it stated that when the notches are lined up together its time to change the belt
    Phew, that's good as the 300Tdi has a new belt and the notches are about 10mm apart.

    Is it the same for the D1 V8? as those notches are about 10mm apart, but the other way? So getting further apart as belt streches.

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    **Discovery300Tdi** Guest
    yes its the same for the v8 and it also says that if your tension pulley bounces more than 5mm while in idle its time to change it too. That was my prob it yas jumping around more than 5mm and the belt ended up coming half off the pulley and started to shred it.

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    horgan Guest
    Yes, sorry guys - I didn't word that correctly.

    My belt is off at the moment, so with the Tensioner bottomed out my marks are ~8mm apart - with the front face mark clockwise (ie:to the right) of the back face mark. That's just with my tensioner (to which I've been tinkering with) - maybe yours is different.

    The front face mark should probably be anti clockwise of the back face mark.

    Yeah, I read something about the Vin Number in one of p38arover's posts - thats if you are sure nothing has changed in the meantime. In short...
    Up to MA163103 and MA501919 it was ERR3287 (7PK1595mm), From TA163104 and TA501520 it was ERR5911 (7PK1580mm).


    There are a couple of good posts about this before (not surprisingly)...
    Serpentine Belts, Long, & short. For 300tdi.
    Serpentine belt tensioner, 300TDi

    Cheers
    PS: I'm no expert here - just another floundering Disco hack.

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