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Thread: Setting cam timing

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    up2nogood Guest

    Setting cam timing

    Just wondering if it's as simple as aligning no1 piston TDC with the 'back' of the cam on no1 firing?

    Or should I be retarding the timing slightly for more torque?

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    mike 90 RR Guest
    OK .... It's after 12 ....

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    up2nogood Guest
    slow day......

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    mike 90 RR Guest
    Quote Originally Posted by up2nogood View Post
    Just wondering if it's as simple as aligning no1 piston TDC with the 'back' of the cam on no1 firing?

    Or should I be retarding the timing slightly for more torque?
    Yes ... you set the "piston 1" to TDC ... No to ... set to "visual" back of cam .. You have to set it up to marks on the gears to get it right ... as it is easy to be 1 tooth out

    Advance the Distributor to get more response from the motor


    Which motor are you working on? .. Are you installing a new cam?


    Mike

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    up2nogood Guest
    4.6 with 3.9 heads. 9.34:1 block. Will be using tin gaskets and running dedicated LPG.

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    mike 90 RR Guest
    Quote Originally Posted by up2nogood View Post
    4.6 with 3.9 heads. 9.34:1 block. Will be using tin gaskets and running dedicated LPG.
    .. So your using a brand new cam .... Durations set for LPG ?? (gas cam)

    Mike

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    up2nogood Guest
    Hmm, hadn't thought of that. Was just going to use a Dynotec PC216.

    Thoughts on this?

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    Quote Originally Posted by up2nogood View Post
    Hmm, hadn't thought of that. Was just going to use a Dynotec PC216.

    Thoughts on this?

    PC216 would be a great cam for gas, make sure it is dialed in though. You MAY have to retard it a few degrees, I have on the last 2 I have done BUT they weren't running gas and were Low comp 3.9's....

    If in doubt set it to factory marks.

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    With regard to camshaft timing, it was my understanding that if you advance the timing this will improve low end torque, as opposed to retarding the camshaft timing to after TDC as this will reduce low end torque.

    Or am I missing something?

    Ron.

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    no, your not missing anything, within limits individually both will increase low end torque.

    Very Very Generally

    retarding the cam a little can let the gasses flow better at low RPM BUT will hurt you at higher RPMs go too far and you can wind up with Ms. Valve Face introducing herself to MR Piston Crown and thats usually a marriage that ends in a disastrously costly divorce.

    Generally with the rover engines as stock you only get to pick by a tooth mesh and not with any fancy cam adjusting gears and usually thats just way to much one way or another. If you were going to the effort of getting yourself set up with an adjusting cam gear you'd know enough to know that theres much better after market cams for rover engines than the stock ones and you'd fit one of them at the same time and to the specs provided with your new cam.

    advancing the Timing puts the spark to the fuel air mix a bit earlier and raises the combustion pressure earlier putting more push on the top of the piston BUT.. When you start to hook in on the noise and the revs lift the advance then pushes you into the realms of pinging and this gets even worse when you lift off and have a decent manifold vac happening.
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