Thread: Towing Capacities

Originally Posted by harlie

Craig, I would be using a 70mm ball over a pintle hook, I think you would find it would be smoother and would not 'shunt'. Be my preference...

whooo just had a look at my parts list - 70mm coupling $351 - 70mm ball $110

Yep, looked up some prices yesterday and by the time he buys a second hand LR tow bar, pintle hook receiver and pintle hook will be about $1000, but hey he bought a big boat. The trailer is already equiped with the pintle hook ring so that is why he will probablly go down this path.
I will let him know both options, but all he is looking for is something basically to take it from his shed down to the river (closest boat ramp 3kms, furtherest in town 10kms). Maybe once a year to the coast some 85kms away. Thi is where the LR is a good option as it is cheap and when wears out cheap to get another compared with having to shell out big dollars for a tow vehicle such as an F250 (which is what a friend did over here).
The car will tow it, no doubt but just trying to stay inside the regulations. Not entering the debate on wether it is safe or appropriate etc at this point.
Frequently down here you see people lob up to the boat ramp in 9 - 11m boats behind Nissan and Toyota wagons and utes and know damn well they are over 3500kg easy, but the dpi dont seem to look at this much.
I agree a small truck would be the best long term answer, but it all comes down to finances.
Now all he needs is some water in the Murray so he can use it.

book read.

unbraked 750kg
over run brakes 2000kg
command brakes 3500kg
twin axle command brakes 4000kg.

I am limited by the tow pack which can only legally handle the 3500kg limit on a 90. (ARB limit stamped on the pack)

My recollection is that a D1 has a designed max towball weight of 150kg (or is it 190kg) - so this has got to be the limiting factor - will a 3.9t tow have a tow ball weight of more that 150/190kg - sure will if it is loaded correctly.

So even if the tow bar arrangement can take the 4 tonne, with the correct brakes and all other requirements are met - a D1 is still limited to only 150/190kg of downforce on the ball - the only way would be to modify the tow vehicle and have it engineered - I have no idea what be required.

Garry

Originally Posted by Blknight.aus

book read.

unbraked 750kg
over run brakes 2000kg
command brakes 3500kg
twin axle command brakes 4000kg.

I am limited by the tow pack which can only legally handle the 3500kg limit on a 90. (ARB limit stamped on the pack)

Dave, The 90 has exactly the same tow limits as the 110 and 130 so the rating on your tow bar is more the limit that ARB deemed for it that anything stated by LR.

In my UK supplied handbook, the max load stated for Defenders with Overrun brakes is 3500kgs and the max with coupled brakes is also 3500kg.

They then go on to say that if you are going to tow over 3500kgs you need to have coupled brakes set up, and then get a modified VIN plate from LR