Master
This is one of my cars, my daily driver infact...
now as much as I LOVE my HZ, it was my first car and has gained a cult status amungst my mates... it's not a 4WD - and I love going camping up DI, LCMP and other 4WD destinations. Which was why I bought my IIA which does the job alright
BUT... being a full time uni student I can only just afford to run both cars and with rego going up again (thanks Anna) and CTP for utes going up aswell, it's not very practical for me to have two cars
I have no problems getting rid of Rambo (IIA GS pictured above) as it caused me alot of grief getting it from a $400 wreck to RWC but I cannot get rid of the HZ (plus I have another 80"Series I at the property). I have explored the consessional registration route and this is too restrictive to put either car on club rego for me.
SOOO (in my best Jeremy Clarkson voice) We'll have to MERGE them
Basically I am VERY familar with the Holden Overlander made in limited numbers by Arthur Hayward in the late 70s early 80s the only thing is that my HZ is a sedan... I don't think an overlander replica has been done an a standard sedan before and I have been seriously thinking about undertaking this task for a while now. Here's a couple I knocked up in Photoshop a while ago
Obviously I don't want something that extremebut I none the less want 4WD. I would also like to use as much of the HZ body/chassis as possible without modification and with coil springs. My thoughts initially went to RRC running gear with a modification plate to suit the 202 hopefully retaining the original coil mounts in the HZ.
I know my dimensions but don't have a RRC that I can go out and measure. Aslo does anyone know of a good engineer I can talk to about this in Brisbane? Depending on cost I might get someone like Superior Engineering to do most of the fabrication for the conversion for me if I can suppy the parts.
Technical thoughts and suggestions on the idea are appreciated (also drugs to take if you think that i have gone crazy...)
Cheers, Jack
ChatterBox
The money spent mucking around with that would keep both registered for quite a few years.
The historic rego is not as restrictive as you think. Check out the MVCA, I can get you on concessional rego if you apply to join the club.
There are also other clubs that can do this, but that one is military vehicle specific.
The other option will cost a packet.
CC
Wizard
SubscriberI reckon the cost to do and get ADR certified will pay the extra rego until your not a uni student any more
cheers
blaze
Wizard
Subscriber2 minutes to slowOriginally Posted by Col.Coleman
Master
What sort of costs are involved?
consultation with an engineer to make sure I do the right thing to get a blue plate
cost of engineer certificate
new gearbox crossmember
some fabrication of control arm mounts & strengthening
purchase of some old RRC running gear & possibly slight modifications to axle housings
adaptor plate
steering rod adaptor (on that note, should I upgrade to PWR Steering?)
most of this would be funded by the sale of my IIA but i would save up and put in a considerable amount too
Master
my predicament is that I want to be able to pack up and leave at a moment's notice and travel to Rainbow beach to go camping/fishing. While I don't really have a problem with doing this in the IIA - I think that historic rego on the IIA would not alow me to do this.
If I went historic rego on the HZ, that would mean i could not drive it every day (to uni, to the bus, etc). Again this does not bother me BUT that would mean that I would have to use the IIA as my daily driver which I'm not real keen on hahahaha
What would be best is to sell both and get a disco/fender...
ChatterBox
Don't want to be mean, but you won't get much for your 11a. It is missing WAY to much from a military collectors point of view, and to anyone else it is just an old truck.
What you would get would struggle to cover the engineer.
The easiest option is a body swap to a full chassis, but the HZ's are only front rails and rear tub. A bit more complicated. You won't get the rigidity or strength you need for off road out of that sort of design from that era.
CC
Master
Yes I am quite aware of all those points
Spose I should speak to an engineer first anyway to see if they will auctally pass it
Maybe I'll just do one on the side over a 5 year peroid - this is what I wanted to initially with a seperate styleside ute & go leaf sprung
Master
Anyone that's driven an Overlander will tell you that, when off-road, seeing where you are going over the bonnet is a problem.
It's like looking from the back of a flight deck
AT REST
You're going to need a full chassis, the HZ front end is held on by the front mudgaurd bolts and a couple of bolts thru rubber donuts, it wouldn't last 1 minute off-road and no engineer would approve it with out a full chassis, the cost would far outweigh any advantage you might percieve, Regards Frank.Yes I am quite aware of all those points
Spose I should speak to an engineer first anyway to see if they will auctally pass it
Maybe I'll just do one on the side over a 5 year peroid - this is what I wanted to initially with a seperate styleside ute & go leaf sprung
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