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    LT230T Idler preload?

    Hi all,
    Can anyone help. Am rebuilding my LT230T tranny case and see in the overhaul manual that LRT 41-107 set up tool is reqd to take a measurement to calculate the correct spacer to use to se the preload. This tool is basically a flat plate with a dummy intermadiate shaft mounted vertically to set the gear up on with the bearings in place. This would be easy to make however I need to know the exact height of the dummy shaft for the calculation formula to work does anyone know this height.... or another way to work out the preload??

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    Neither the genuine WSM or my Rave manual make mention of that special tool or the process you are trying to undertake.

    What is the "idler" you are asking about?

    If you are looking at the contemporary replacement parts for the intermediate gear, setting preload of its bearings on the intermediate shaft, all references to new parts relate to a crush spacer. This spacer is crushed between the bearings as you do up the shaft nut to a set torque.

    Can you give more info?

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    the method used for bearing preload on the intermediate shaft is by measuring the rotating resistance on the input shaft before fitting the intermediate shaft. then fit the intermediate shaft assembly and do up the nut and check the ratational resistance as you go with a spring gauge.

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    Yes it is the intermediate gear in the Transfer case that I'm referring to. My Rave manual under "Discovery/Overhaul Manuals/Transfer Boxes/LT230T-3rd Edition" on page 69 of 78 (page 44 on a printout of the overhaul section) shows the LRT in question. It also stresses that the crush spacers are no longer to be used but rather to be replaced with a fixed length spacer according to measure by calculation with this tool.

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    have fun mate, did it have the crush tube in it before.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lambrover View Post
    the method used for bearing preload on the intermediate shaft is by measuring the rotating resistance on the input shaft before fitting the intermediate shaft. then fit the intermediate shaft assembly and do up the nut and check the ratational resistance as you go with a spring gauge.
    I don't understand why you need to measure resistance of the input shaft, how do you do it and what do you do with the info. Also where and how do you measure the intermediate shaft and what range should the reading fall in. This method sound like you use the crush spacers which are not recommended now. Sorry for my ignorance on all this but this is my first tranny... finances...you know how it goes.

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    thats all right, now if the method of preload has changed the figures should still be the same. the reason the input shaft resistance is measured is it is used as a datum to measure from.

    just say the input shaft resistance is 2.5kg, Now when the correct preload has been established on the intermediate shaft the figure will be increased by that spec.

    Now in my book the the load has to be increased by 3.7kg plus or minus 1.63kg so if you take the 2.5kg and add your preload it should be around the 6kg mark.

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    Thanks lambrover for the tips, sound like I'm going to need a fist full of spacers and a lot of time.

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    yes you will , read over the manuel untill you are familiar with all the procedures and understand the process of what you need to do. If this is the first time you have attempted somthing like this you really need some one who has some experiance to help as it is critical the set up is done very accuratly. best of luck.

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    OK I've given this a bit of thought and worked out what to do!!! I'll get a collapsible spacer and the longest non-collapsible spacer. Will assemble with collapsible spacer, set up the pre-load as specified in the manual. pull out the intermediate gear, remove and measure the collapsible spacer for length. Lathe down the non-collapsible spacer to same length (if anything spacer may expand very slightly when tension is released). Reassemble and measure pre-load. May need to remove and reassemble a few times and lap the end of the spacer on a whet stone a couple of times until I reach the required pre-load.

    I think the reason for not using the collapsible spacers anymore is that over time and torsion the spacer continues to crush slightly causing the taper bearings to lose pre-load and thus wear into the shaft, as has happened in my case.

    Hope this helps someone else.

    Cheers all.

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