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Thread: Relays .. One for the Auto spark in us

  1. #11
    mike 90 RR Guest
    Quote Originally Posted by fraser130 View Post
    Can I ask why you have the aircon relay operating another relay, would it not be better to operate the low directly from the aircon relay?

    I still can't see why the centre blue relay is there.
    Fraser
    Thanking you for your thoughts

    The 3 in a row relays are fixed / can't change em ..... only the 2 at the bottom are what I want to add to control the direction of the 12v

    If i didn't have the A/C relay ... then 12v would be sent back up to the A/C itself .... Basically the relay is to isolate the A/C power source and keep the feed direction towards the fans / relays

    The same for the center blue relay ....

    Mike

  2. #12
    mike 90 RR Guest
    Quote Originally Posted by Rangier Rover View Post
    Hi Mike,
    Try a Relay with a built in resistor. What you are experiencing there is a common problem with non resistor relays when you start stacking them up like that.

    Tony
    Ta for that Tony .... was hoping for some "Yea / seen that before"

    All the wholesalers would say is ... "mate we sell em / don't know what they do, but we got stacks of em"

    All my relays have diodes in them ....

    Mike

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    With mechanical switches the diodes probably don't matter. With transistors you need the diode to stop the voltage spike when you stop the drive to the coil, otherwise you end up puncturing the drive transistor.

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    Rangier Rover Guest
    Quote Originally Posted by mike 90 RR View Post
    Ta for that Tony .... was hoping for some "Yea / seen that before"

    All the wholesalers would say is ... "mate we sell em / don't know what they do, but we got stacks of em"

    All my relays have diodes in them ....

    Mike
    As you know the diodes will only allow power to pass one way but have little resistance in the forward polarity.
    Just thinking.... If you can't come up with a relay with resistor just wire in a small globe (2 to 5w) from the earth to the switching pole and see if the problem goes away.

    There you go.... If it works just another hole to drill in all that plastic for another thingy

    Tony

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    You still have the original condensor fans yea? if so, junk the relay setup, as you don;t need the AC input, the way they achieve low speed high speed is either operating them in series/paralell, basically junk the lot, use 2 relays to control the fans with you thermatic switch and your done, makes the whole lot simple and easy to fault find, plus if one fan craps its knickers, it don;t effect the other

    I've wired more than one set off falcon fans, in both retaining the original control, for falcon engine conversions and just utilising the fans for others

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    mike 90 RR Guest
    Quote Originally Posted by rovercare View Post
    You still have the original condensor fans yea?
    I was gonna remove them so I get a clean air flow (no obstructions) to the radiator ... Just use the High / low setup on the Ford thermo fans .....

    Mike

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    mike 90 RR Guest
    Quote Originally Posted by Rangier Rover View Post
    Just thinking.... If you can't come up with a relay with resistor just wire in a small globe (2 to 5w) from the earth to the switching pole and see if the problem goes away.
    But that means I will have to lift the bonnet every time, to see if the light is on, to let me know which fans working



    Quote Originally Posted by Rangier Rover View Post
    Hi Mike,
    Try a Relay with a built in resistor.
    Fitted them up on the weekend // bought resistor relays .... Top Stuff ... all works now /// like a charm

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    Rangier Rover Guest
    Quote Originally Posted by mike 90 RR View Post
    But that means I will have to lift the bonnet every time, to see if the light is on, to let me know which fans working





    Fitted them up on the weekend // bought resistor relays .... Top Stuff ... all works now /// like a charm
    Great stuff I've done a few here the same way with success as well

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