Changing Wheel Stud Pattern

**101RRS** · 21st September 2009, 05:25 PM

On wheels that have drilled and countersunk wheel stud holes (like D1 steel wheels and sunraysias) can these holes be welded up and a new new stud pattern drilled.

Would stress relief be required for the wheel and what is the chance of fatigue cracks developing from the welds.

I want to put wider rims on my 101 and I have some disco rims lying around that could be modified if the welding and drilling process is viable.

I can get alloy rims that will fit in the 6 stud pattern but I would prefer steel rims. Likewise I could take out centres of my current rims and put wider rims on them but 101 rims are just too rare in Australia to bastardise.

Mainly interested on the metallurgical issues of filling holes and redrilling.

Thanks

Garry

**PeterP** · 21st September 2009, 06:03 PM

I would not weld and re-drill, be more inclined to have new centers put in.

I have been pondering about wider rims for the 101 and really want to keep the original rims and bar treads for those days when the look correct.

I am not keen on alloy rims but would appreciate any links for information you have about them.

Cooee's yellow one had big tyres and the rim (from the pics) looked fairly standard. This one that just come up for sale on the Gold Coast has 38.5x14.5x16 Maxis tyres on it and they look user friendly also, will have to find out what they used.
1977 LAND ROVER 101 Cars For Sale in QLD - CarPoint Australia

Peter

**101RRS** · 21st September 2009, 07:17 PM

Originally Posted by PeterP

I would not weld and re-drill, be more inclined to have new centers put in.

I am not sure where I would get blank 16" centres.

Originally Posted by PeterP

I am not keen on alloy rims but would appreciate any links for information you have about them.

Performance wheels have an industrial range but the advantage is that they will drill the wheels to whatever stud pattern you require. The relevant wheel is the TS1
http://www.performancewheels.com.au/...trial_back.pdf
Les Richmond Automotive

Originally Posted by PeterP

Cooee's yellow one had big tyres and the rim (from the pics) looked fairly standard. This one that just come up for sale on the Gold Coast has 38.5x14.5x16 Maxis tyres on it and they look user friendly also, will have to find out what they used.
1977 LAND ROVER 101 Cars For Sale in QLD - CarPoint Australia Peter

Cooee was the architect behind the 101 on car sales - Cooee's yellow 101 and the green one both have had the standard 101 wheel centres removed and put in much wider rims - 8" I think.

Cheers

Garry

**andrew e** · 21st September 2009, 10:12 PM

Originally Posted by garrycol

I am not sure where I would get blank 16" centres.

Garry

draw them up with dimensions, and take them to a profile cutting shop, and get them plasma cut out. my mog ones were $20 each and made from 10mm mild steel plate.

Andy

**101RRS** · 22nd September 2009, 10:33 AM

Thanks Andrew,

I am not sure I have the skills to do that - not sure what would be correct. I just checked with Eastern wheel works in Melbourne and they want $360 to make a steel wheel

. Industrial grade alloys at half that price look good.

Garry

mike 90 RR · 22nd September 2009, 10:48 AM

Garry ... because the Factory is in OZ ... can't you ring em up and order a set of mags with no stud holes (Drill them yourself) ... I remember this an option in the "days gone by"

Mike

**101RRS** · 22nd September 2009, 12:03 PM

Originally Posted by mike 90 RR

Garry ... because the Factory is in OZ ... can't you ring em up and order a set of mags with no stud holes (Drill them yourself) ... I remember this an option in the "days gone by"

Mike

No need to drill the holes - you simply order the wheels and advise what PCD and the number of holes and presto - about 4 weeks later they arrive at your local dealer ready to fit.

Garry

mike 90 RR · 22nd September 2009, 01:32 PM

I edited this .....

Originally Posted by garrycol

I can get alloy rims that will fit in the 6 stud pattern but I would prefer steel rims.

Appoligies, Garry ... I reread your post .... I Thought you were after Mags .....

**isuzurover** · 22nd September 2009, 01:54 PM

If you want steels, Agrojnr on here works at a lasercutting place and could cut some flat centres from 10mm steel for you. AFAIK there is no need to supply a drawing, just the dimensions (or a sketch with dimensions). PM Adam for cost/details. I have found their prices very good.

Summerfield Engineering could probably then weld them into outers of your choice for very little money (well they charged $40+GST to remove modify and refit the centres on some disco steels for me).

The most expensive part of it all would probably be shipping!!!

**andrew e** · 22nd September 2009, 08:31 PM

Originally Posted by isuzurover

If you want steels, Agrojnr on here works at a lasercutting place and could cut some flat centres from 10mm steel for you. AFAIK there is no need to supply a drawing, just the dimensions (or a sketch with dimensions). PM Adam for cost/details. I have found their prices very good.

Summerfield Engineering could probably then weld them into outers of your choice for very little money (well they charged $40+GST to remove modify and refit the centres on some disco steels for me).

The most expensive part of it all would probably be shipping!!!

you can also buy blank steel outer rings from any wheel shop (i got mine from fourbys in qld), just pick your size. my 17x9s were about 100 each including freight.

You will need to know the OD of the center (ID of the outer ring) for the laser/profile cutting shop, so its best you get the outer rings first then work out the centers.

Freight of the wheels is not much, go to e-go.com and get a quote.

Andy

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