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    Question Disco 1 overheating - help needed

    have just bought a 94 discovery 3.9 v8 auto with eaton supercharger.

    Is overheating when under load and can't work out problem, please help. Have looked through countless posts on this forum and others and i don't seem to have the same problem... all others i have read had some other tell tale sign, whereas this is just overheating, with no other symptoms!!

    Heater works great though

    Have replaced radiator, viscous unit and fan, all new coolant and pressure flushed engine, checked water pump which looks brand new (think last owner having problems also as all plastic under bonnet is very brittle from heat), checked hoses, replaced thermostat and checked new one to ensure working and tried it without thermo stat, pressure flushed entire system.

    no oil in water or vice versa, no water loss, no leakage, no steam from exhaust, just nothing!!!!! air con condensor clear and electric fans also working.

    will cruise in cooler weather not a problem but as soon as too much load is placed on engine, it will boil it in no time flat!! once it is hot, even idling will not send it back down and engine has to be shut down. recent weather north of Geraldton, W.A. reacherd about 30 degrees (hottest days since ownership) and that was enough to overheat it with just normal driving!!

    IF ANYONE CAN PLEASE GIVE SOME OTHER SUGGESTIONS???? even if it is confirming i need a new engine as i will look for a larger capacity (4.6 or bigger) to replace this one and do away with the blower!!

    Also, if someone could advise if any of teh discoveries had a heater hose switch under bonnet on the driver side rocker cover??? this has one and it doesn't look factory... not sure if thsi could be a cause?? doesn't seem to be a switch for heater without it as coolant flows freely through lines without turning heater on..

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    Is it using any coolant? during general driving? Any water in the engine oil?

    If its not using any water and just gets hot when under load i would say the radiator needs rodding. In the disco radiators the veins in radiator run horizontal so you dont flush the all the crap out with a general coolant change. The radiator needs to come out, take the tanks off the end of it and use rods to push the crap out of each channel in the radiator. Sounds like this might be your problem, especially if it runs fine when not under load but heats up quick when you give it some. It sounds like the radiator cant get rid of the heat quick enough when lots is produced. Has it got the original fan or has someone added thermo fans or anything like that?
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    Maybe you have an airblock somewhere in the engine that is causing a hotspot?

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    have just bought a 94 discovery 3.9 v8 auto with eaton supercharger.
    Have replaced radiator, viscous unit and fan, all new coolant and pressure flushed engine, checked water pump which looks brand new (think last owner having problems also as all plastic under bonnet is very brittle from heat), checked hoses, replaced thermostat and checked new one to ensure working and tried it without thermo stat, pressure flushed entire system.
    Did you replace the radiator with a NEW one? This certainly sounds like a blocked radiator so I would revisit .

    Although seeing it has an Eaton Supercharger-
    I wonder if the ECU is pulling out so much advance when the supercharger goes on boost that the amount of retard is causing overheating.

    What sort of ECU is the car running?
    Is it a MAP sensor type?
    Does it now have an electronic advance control?

    It is almost impossible to diagnose something like this from a distance without knowing how mods were done to the car.

    I suggest you contact the fitters of the supercharger.
    Regards Philip A

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    This sounds EXACLTY what my old 6.5 chev deisel was doing, would cruise ok but under any load would get hot, i ran a new patrol 4 core radiater which is alot bigger and it was still doing it.
    Fixed it with a 80mm thick 2 core aluminium radiater, didn't get above 90c
    then i stripped and sold it
    Radiater just wasn't big enough, or wouldn't flow enough

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    Check exhaust temperature as the supercharger could be causing the combustion temperature to be too excessive for a standard cooling system
    Air fuel ratio should be checked, possibly running too lean under load.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Bullfrog View Post

    IF ANYONE CAN PLEASE GIVE SOME OTHER SUGGESTIONS????
    ^^^^ Go visit the "Poster" above me ^^^^^^^


    And seeing someone with a Dyno wouldn't go astray


    In the meantime .... stop driving it till you get it sorted , otherwise you WILL be up for a new motor


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    Also check to make sure that the air is actually going through the radiator, air will take the easiest route and if it can go around and not through the radiator it will

    My fathers rangie was doing similar this to what yours sounds like its doing, we blocked the gaps and so far it seems to have improved it drastically.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GuyG View Post
    Also check to make sure that the air is actually going through the radiator, air will take the easiest route and if it can go around and not through the radiator it will

    My fathers rangie was doing similar this to what yours sounds like its doing, we blocked the gaps and so far it seems to have improved it drastically.
    Making sure you haave a decent radiator cowling will make a world of difference to this aswell.
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    update

    Had a sniff test done on coolant yesterday, no problems there, which was a good thing and a bad thing at the same time as i still don't know the problem, confirming it needs a new engine would have at least given me an answer!!

    Radiator is brand new, so is not the problem, unless too small, but problem seems to be getting worse now as i can't cruise more than 5 kms without it overheating so is back in shed in pieces for the third time!!

    However, the person doing sniff test suggested it could be the torque convertor as he had heard of nissan's having a problem similar to this when a bearing in torque convertor went. it would get red hot, overheat oil which would heat transfer into radiator and cook engine.

    This could explain why it is getting worse maybe?? going to bypass the radiator part of transmission cooler and see if that makes a difference.

    Next i will be pulling the vacuum off the supercharger so that is bypassed to see if that is causing the problems if auto comes up good.

    As for supercharger fitment and mods, unfortunately i don't know who fitted it and exactly what they have done (think it may have been Jordan Rovertech, however was back around 1998 sometime i think, and they didn;t have any records and no longer fit them apparently). is still running vacuum advance on dizzy, ECU still standard one though don't know if they have re programmed it at all, eeverything else looks standard except all the extra vacuum lines and extended breathers running around the place.

    Will see what i come up with today, have just borrowed an infra red thermometer so will check out temps of radiator, engine, trans etc to see how they differentiate.

    Thanks for the replies

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