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    calculating front to rear brake %'s

    hey all,

    how do I figure out the front and rear brake percentages for a 98 Def 110. If the total braking area is 100% what percentage is front and rear.

    cheers,
    Serg

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    the easiest way is to put it on a dyno roller and test them.

    you can calculate it roughly by working out the piston surface area of the front and rear calipers and then expressing that as a percentage.

    if you have a brake pressure modulator of any kind you have to work it out as the overall force that the calipers can exert which is the calipers total piston area multiplied by the fluid pressure. do that for front and rear and then express them as a percentage.

    from memory the split is 60/40
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    This is an expansion of Mr BK's dyno suggestion

    Safe-T-Stop - Brake, Steering and Suspension Safety Test

    One of their reports came with the RR I picked up in Vic. Strange as it seems it was 70/30 f/r, but it was a 20 yo vehicle after all. It even measured variations L/R on each axle. ( 13% FNS, 27% RNS)

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    I may well be wrong but werent the orignal RR twin pot twin piston fronts with single pot rears? This would make some sense to the large % difference

    Serg

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blknight.aus View Post
    the easiest way is to put it on a dyno roller and test them.

    you can calculate it roughly by working out the piston surface area of the front and rear calipers and then expressing that as a percentage.

    if you have a brake pressure modulator of any kind you have to work it out as the overall force that the calipers can exert which is the calipers total piston area multiplied by the fluid pressure. do that for front and rear and then express them as a percentage.

    from memory the split is 60/40
    Regarding calculating it, would pad size come into play?

    what are the piston sizes and number of for front and rear of a 1998 Def 110 trayback

    Serg

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    yep, thats why I said roughly calculate.
    Dave

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blknight.aus View Post
    yep, thats why I said roughly calculate.
    cheers,
    do you know the front and rear piston sizes?

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    not off the top of my head no.

    out of curiosity why do you want to know the brake bias?

    (send me a PM tonight And I'll dig the raves/rps/emei/partsmanuas and see if I can find enough to give you a close enough to right answer)
    Dave

    "In a Landrover the other vehicle is your crumple zone."

    For spelling call Rogets, for mechanicing call me.

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    so i can calculate the amount of anti-dive on my truck and play around with some front end designs.

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    why is it that this worries me a little?

    Ifff your going to be doing what I think your going to be doing might I suggest that you get an early rangie setup for the brakes and on the secondary plug in a proportioning valve?
    Dave

    "In a Landrover the other vehicle is your crumple zone."

    For spelling call Rogets, for mechanicing call me.

    Fozzy, 2.25D SIII Ex DCA Ute
    Tdi autoManual d1 (gave it to the Mupion)
    Archaeoptersix 1990 6x6 dual cab(This things staying)


    If you've benefited from one or more of my posts please remember, your taxes paid for my skill sets, I'm just trying to make sure you get your monies worth.
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