Thread: dead td5 what to replace with

How many km's did you get out of that engine?

10k seems like a fair whack of money just for maintaining the engine? Who did the work on it for you?

maby you just got one of them engines that just dident want to live,

Hi ,the motor had 270ks on it mostly country driving , as it was my shooting and fishing rig, I would clock up th ks so I spent a lot on services as well, as the last thing I wanted was to be let down in the middle of nowhere. I was also on my second gearbox and as I said anything needing replacing was replaced, I really was impressed with the whole car motor included, so it really ****ed me off. the mechanic is a good bloke and has taken over from the previous owner who is a mate , and my only interest was getting the job done not really price. on an average month I could have done 5k in hunting or fishing kilometers so services were more frequent than most.

yep, thats a monday motor.


dont worry even the 4bd1 has its share of them...

I here tell that the detroit (or GM) 3-53 will fit and everything will handle if you dont wind the wick up too much.

Ive done the initial research on a deutz aircooled turbo 4 and that fits with a good weight saving its not as torquey but its got a wider band and a touch more HP over stock BUT it also doesnt hit the same max RPMs.

Allegedly the 3.9suzi fits in as well.

Originally Posted by flyfish1

my 130 has died, and as I now feel disapointed with their reliability , I dont really want to replace it with another td5. Although it has been an impressive motor I have also not skimped on services and replacement on any parts that seemed suss I have easily spend around $10k per year since 2001, in that time I have had the cooling system rebuilt once and replaced once, anything that needed doing was done no questions asked . So I might be cynical but I feel very disapointed with it, last week after a service which included the oil cooler being replaced and cost over $2k the motor **** itself on the way home.As my car has had many thousands spent on it, to get it to how I want it with air compressors and air tanks hot water showers etc I really cant junk it and plan to fix it, hiowever I am not really sure if I want to put another td5 in it as they might be to light weight to really be long lived, does anyone have a opinion on what to do.Any advice is appreciated.

Hi FlyFish,

For starters I would be looking at the maintenance and how you are driving it. I know we all think of our selves as good drivers, and your mechanic may be a good bloke, but $80,000 in 8 years sounds like more than a Monday motor to me.

As for a swap, how long are you prepared to have the 130 off the road?
Replacing the TD5 will be the easiest, quickest and cheapest option.

300 Tdi or Rover V8 should be easy swaps.

Isuzu 4BD1T was a stranded fittment to the 6X6s and the non turbo was fitted to the 80s 110s, but I think you'll need to find a Land Rover Isuzu bell-housing, here is a good thread on this conversion,
http://www.aulro.com/afvb/isuzu-land...onversion.html
also rijidij has a good write up of his conversion but it's to a four speed, have a look in the Isuzu section.

You could use a 4BD1T and an Isuzu box, I believe Dougal,
http://www.aulro.com/afvb/members/dougal.html
Runs this in his Range Rover.

If you you do go ahead and change to a different motor it will take longer and cost more than to think, even if you allow for the added cost and time!
Once you have a plan talk to an engineer re rego before you lift a spanner.

All the best with it

Tony

I'm not sure what the go was with yours, but an engine conversion brings a host of problems itself. Sounds like you had a monday motor, but I'd replace it with another one. It'll be easy, quick and probably more reliable than a conversion.

Originally Posted by Blknight.aus

I here tell that the detroit (or GM) 3-53 will fit and everything will handle if you dont wind the wick up too much.

Kidding right? The Detroit 53, 71, and 92 series are 2 strokes, even the US is banning their use in some states (other than on gas), Aus banned them fitted in new vehicles about '94. The 3-53 is not exactly a gutsy piece either, lets not mention spares, or weather it can be registered.

I agree with TonyC swapping to something obscure will be blow out both in cost and time.

Originally Posted by flyfish1

... last week after a service which included the oil cooler being replaced and cost over $2k the motor **** itself on the way home...

What happened? It could have been something the Mechanic forgot to do which caused it to lunch itself, if you were on the way back from having it serviced. Seem an unlikely coincidence that it'd just go. Doesn't seem fair to blame to TD5 if it is something like that.

If it was something like the oil pump bolt coming off, then this is a known problem with the early TD5's and should have been checked by your mechanic and re-loctite'd.

So, would be interested to hear how it met its end.

Sorry to hear that it's gone belly up.
David