Spinning the wheels!

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Originally Posted by isuzurover

Will do next time it rains (if ever - over here :eek: ). However I would need a couple of observers to see if 2 wheels spin or all 4.

I will repeat all 3 variations next time I am on gravel as well.

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Cheers, I'm not worried about combinations of front and back difflocks, mainly centre locked with the rest unlocked.

A 2wd live axle vehicle will pick up and spin one wheel due to the torque of the prop shaft unweighting one side.
But a 4wd landrover has front and back shafts turning in the same direction, so it tries to unweight both wheels on one side.

The result seems to be pretty even traction, when I boot it on gravel the resulting tracks from each side are pretty even.

Do you know the front/back weight distribution of your wagon?

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Originally Posted by Dougal

I've never claimed to spin all four on tarmac. I can drift all four.
Figured out why your little oiler couldn't keep up yet?

Mine has more torque than a 351 windsor, others here have too. Best figure I could find for them was 346 ft-lb, that's 470Nm.
You can buy a 2.5 tdi navara with that much torque.

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You claim to spin all four on gravel, not drift, wheel spin under sheer power

My little oiler went fine, I've driven quite a few 4BD1T rovers now, it was further fuelled and boosted than all of them......its just I think yours is a little miraculous:D

The 351 was not a stocker;)

Same same on the wheel spin with the twin turbo 302 windsor that the 351 superceded and 6psi right there on torque convertor lock up, torque was not of shortage

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Originally Posted by Dougal

What exactly is it that can't be done?

The 4 wheel uphill burnout on tarmac that you think I was talking about or squealing wheels on tarmac which I was talking about?

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what are you talking about ???

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Originally Posted by Dougal

I can light up wheels on dry tarmac in second with mine.
Doesn't sustain it though, being fulltime 4wd the other two-three wheels pulling gets it moving in the intended direction.

On a wet road that's third gear.:D

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Originally Posted by rovercare

You claim to spin all four on gravel, not drift, wheel spin under sheer power

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Yes, and you still have a problem with that?

Like I've said, it leaves tracks from both sides that look pretty even. You think that's impossible without difflocks, I disagree.
Traction is pretty even from side to side on these vehicles.

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Originally Posted by rovercare

My little oiler went fine, I've driven quite a few 4BD1T rovers now, it was further fuelled and boosted than all of them......its just I think yours is a little miraculous:D

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Mine isn't miraculous at all, JustinC's experiences are pretty similar. Then we've got Randy in the US with his one that for a while had compound turbos fitted.

You do realise that I have 29" wheels, not 37's?

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Originally Posted by Dougal

Yes, and you still have a problem with that?

Like I've said, it leaves tracks from both sides that look pretty even. You think that's impossible without difflocks, I disagree.
Traction is pretty even from side to side on these vehicles.



Mine isn't miraculous at all, JustinC's experiences are pretty similar. Then we've got Randy in the US with his one that for a while had compound turbos fitted.

You do realise that I have 29" wheels, not 37's?

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:eek: Gee, I wonder what mine would do with 29's:eek::eek::eek: At least it wouldn't break a CV or axle in the process:twisted:

Might try it one day...:cool:

JC

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Originally Posted by justinc

:eek: Gee, I wonder what mine would do with 29's:eek::eek::eek: At least it wouldn't break a CV or axle in the process:twisted:

Might try it one day...:cool:

JC

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Traction, it's the cheapest thing to break and the easiest thing to replace.:D

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Originally Posted by Dougal

Traction, it's the cheapest thing to break and the easiest thing to replace.:D

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Gold Dougal, GOLD!!!:D:D:D

JC

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Originally Posted by Dougal

Traction, it's the cheapest thing to break and the easiest thing to replace.:D

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Yeah right, tell that to the next bloke that becomes part of a roadside tree.

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Originally Posted by Dougal

Yes, and you still have a problem with that?

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Cant really be done is my vote.... 4BD1T with 35's....
Towing a big weight. Cdl open smokes left front big time. Locked leans over and lifts left front slight chirp from the rear as it moves forward:confused: There is no way all locked. Something would give out first.