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    Sparks showering from exhaust

    During hill climb at 100-110 km/hr sparks began to shower from the exhaust pipe (could have happened during the day but became noticeable at night). Pulled over immediately and let the engine idle for a few minutes- engine appeared to be running fine with no abnormal sounds or vibration. Inspected the engine externals as best I could without dissembling anything- All appeared fine. No abnormal blowby. Exhaust smoke appeared normal for the engine (i.e. black with hint of blue). Captured a few of the embers for examination. They are black and inferred to be non-metallic. The sparks reduced to nil with time.

    With that, I continued on my journey home (~130 km) over similiar country, minor sparks observed for the next (say) 10 mins then no more observed for the remained of the drive. No noticeable loss of power. Started fine this morning.

    The facts:

    > 4bd1 + t. T25/28. No after cooler. 3 inch mandrel exhaust. No egt gauge fitted :/

    > Happened after about 5 hours (straight) of 4wd/ high speed/ driving across flat/ undulating (moderate) terrain.

    > Ambient temperature was around 10 degs. Elevation around 1000 m above sea level.

    > No noticeable engine problems prior to event. Engine not overheating.

    Results of my search last night by the side of the road and today suggest that the embers are carbon particles (build-up) within the combustion chamber dislodging and igniting. This may be true but I would presume egts must have been high!!!

    Ultimate my concern is whether I have done irreversible damage.

    Any thoughts?

    Thanks in advance

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    Oil change off you go home to fit egt gauge and your set to go..

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    Have a good check of the composition of the particles you found as the usual cause of sparks from the exhaust is the turbo disintegrating. Excessive bearing wear causing the turbine or compressor wheel rubbing on the housing. Don't want to alarm you but it would be a good idea to take a turbo hose off and check the shaft for wear. There should only be a small amount of endfloat (sideways movement).
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    Have you got a muffler/silencer/resonator/spark arrester fitted to your exhaust system? My pipe is straight through, so I can expect the same....

    So long as the deposits don't have part numbers on them, I wouldn't be too worried.

    As stated, fit an EGT sensor and keep going.

    My 2 cents.

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    My 240Z used to do this sitting at 100mph. When the engine was working harder than usual, it'd heat up the carbon in the exhaust (most likely in the extractors close to the engine) and blow it out the back as sparks.
    Maybe the extra effort up the hill is doing the same thing, cleaning out the soot and carbon deposits.

    As said, get an EGT probe installed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mudmouse View Post

    So long as the deposits don't have part numbers on them, I wouldn't be too worried.


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    Quote Originally Posted by ScottW View Post
    My 240Z used to do this sitting at 100mph. When the engine was working harder than usual, it'd heat up the carbon in the exhaust (most likely in the extractors close to the engine) and blow it out the back as sparks.
    Maybe the extra effort up the hill is doing the same thing, cleaning out the soot and carbon deposits.

    As said, get an EGT probe installed.
    I'll back that for starters....
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    Quote Originally Posted by mudmouse View Post
    So long as the deposits don't have part numbers on them, I wouldn't be too worried.

    I'll second that!!! I'm giggling like a 9 yr old and SWIMBO's giving me the usual "oh dear" look!! This is where a 'Like' option at the bottom of each post would be handy!!

    Re the sparks, I wouldn't worry. The 6 pot Nissan in my old 101 used to do the same when towing up a hill with the boot buried to the floor, looked like one of those Chinese Lanterns!!! Older tractors and trucks often do it... along with the stack glowing a dull red. The Detroit powered Chamberlain Super 90 I used to drive in WA did it when working hard. Loved it!!

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    I agree with other comments on here about carbon buildup. We often have generators in our fleet that go out and are lightly loaded while on hire. Once we get them back and load test them, showers of sparks are very common. In extreme cases you can have a whole lump of carbon spurt out on fire like a small volcano. Quite entertaining, and if it happens while the unit is on hire, the customer usually ****s themselves and turns the machine off, then rings us to tell us the genset is on fire...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sitec View Post

    SWIMBO's giving me the usual "oh dear" look!!
    I get that too.
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