Thread: Found a donor truck

Oh forgot, its gear driven as well.

As for the 24v thing, just find 12v stuff, sooooo much less frigging around. I used a gq deisel patrol alternator, bracket requires only a minor mod.

Thanks for all that useful info Vern - makes life that bit easier. Just ducked over to the shed to look at the cover plate where I might attach power steering. The 4bd1 engine together with the LT230 offer quite a few power output options.

Now where is the cover plate for the gear driven aircon compressor? Otherwise how have people adapted? GQ Patrol again by chance?

Just out of curiosity does someone know anyone who runs their RRC or Def or Disco without power steering? I mean not just a unit with a broken pump or hose etc - I've experienced the pump unit failing, and it is way so heavy compared to the non-powered steering I was used to in older vehicles. And I might add, that failure related to putting a washer behind the belt tensioner to change alignment and stop the tensioner squealing. Never again.

Originally Posted by workingonit

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You've lost me completely with that analogy.

I run 12v everything (incl alternator). Only the starter is 24v. Well the glow plugs are 24v too. But they aren't hooked up.

Originally Posted by workingonit

Thanks for all that useful info Vern - makes life that bit easier. Just ducked over to the shed to look at the cover plate where I might attach power steering. The 4bd1 engine together with the LT230 offer quite a few power output options.

Now where is the cover plate for the gear driven aircon compressor? Otherwise how have people adapted? GQ Patrol again by chance?

The best you could likely find would be the timing case off a 6B?? engine that will have the brake air compressor and the power steering pump locations.

thanks lotza - I was hoping as a joke there might be a spot on the block where you could attach a gear driven airconditioning aircompressor. Otherwise, given my engine only has one v belt pully to drive the alternator, how have people adapted airconditioning (which in theory would then require a twin v pully on the crank)- I plan on trying to mount the original v8 airconditioning compressor. Or are you actually saying that a brake aircompressor can really substitute for your regular airconditioning compressor in an airconditioning system, which would be interesting?! Cheers.

I don't believe direct gear driven a/c pump is an option, at least one without a clutch.

On many makes of vehicles the A/C pulley on the crank is actually a bolt on component. It may be possible to adapt yours in the same manner although the ideal would be to get a twin pulley off another engine. I have also seen people who mount an A/C compressor on the engine to use the original belt and use the second V to run a second belt to the alternator or a twin V alternator pulley to do it the other way. I don't know if you have ever seen it but the mid 80s 3.5 V8s used 4 belts.

Originally Posted by workingonit

thanks lotza - I was hoping as a joke there might be a spot on the block where you could attach a gear driven airconditioning aircompressor. Otherwise, given my engine only has one v belt pully to drive the alternator, how have people adapted airconditioning (which in theory would then require a twin v pully on the crank)- I plan on trying to mount the original v8 airconditioning compressor. Or are you actually saying that a brake aircompressor can really substitute for your regular airconditioning compressor in an airconditioning system, which would be interesting?! Cheers.

Second bolt on pulley drives the AC compressor.

Made another dash to the shed (130 metre round trip).

The 82 RRC has a one piece, three groove, dampener. The 84 RRC has the same, but with the addition of a bolt on single, giving a total of 4 grooves.

Then to the 4bd1t on the shed floor - the arc of the fan covers part of the arc of the dampener, so there is enough room for 1 bolt on, maybe 2 if cast as one piece.

Running the single dampener to a double on the aircon/alternator double also sounds good.

I spoke to Sheldon about this RRC conversion and he was thinking his gear change mechanism might bring the gear stick too close to the dash when compared to the Defender/County/110.

I believe the 82 vehicle probably came originally with the LT95 4 speed, but the guy I bought it from says it was swapped out by another previous owner for what might be an LT85? 5 speed, reverse is right and to the rear. Plenty of room between dash and gear stick.

The 84 vehicle has I think the LT77 5 speed, reverse is left and forward - it sits very close to the dash.

Anyway, using the transfer case as point of origin, I've done some basic measurements, and with Sheldons kit on the MSA it may as he suspects sit slightly under the line of the dash.