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    MoveLater2 So what would the main difference be?

    Spotted a Isuzu 4bg1 diesel motor on flea bay. It is rated as general industrial. Can be used as a fork lift motor. So what would stop any one using it in a motor vehicle? Had me thinking of a diesel fired Disco...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hall View Post
    Spotted a Isuzu 4bg1 diesel motor on flea bay. It is rated as general industrial. Can be used as a fork lift motor. So what would stop any one using it in a motor vehicle? Had me thinking of a diesel fired Disco...
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    ADR compliance
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hall View Post
    Spotted a Isuzu 4bg1 diesel motor on flea bay. It is rated as general industrial. Can be used as a fork lift motor. So what would stop any one using it in a motor vehicle? Had me thinking of a diesel fired Disco...
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    Non turbo. Probably a little low in performance for car use?
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    Injectors, timing, cam, pistons as well as the aforementioned.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hall View Post
    Spotted a Isuzu 4bg1 diesel motor on flea bay. It is rated as general industrial. Can be used as a fork lift motor. So what would stop any one using it in a motor vehicle? Had me thinking of a diesel fired Disco...
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    That price for a 12k engine unused .

    If i was in the market i`d buy it and work out the details later .

    Surely just the pump or turbo alone is worth more .

    You`d have to pull it apart there has to be a catch , maybe because of where it is its been wet .

    Isuzu AU rate it a variable speed which suit all bar pump/gen , no detail about differences .

    The TRW has the greater kW and Nm of the 2 ( could be 3 ) and they don`t list non turbo .

    Patterson Cheney in Cheltenham rd are dealers for Isuzu engines .

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    No intercooler either. Making it compliant and suitable would be a nightmare.


    • The 4BD1 is a 3.9 L direct injection diesel sold in Isuzu ELF trucks as well as marine and industrial applications from 1979. Power output varied. 1979 models had 64 kW (110 SAE HP) at 3,200 rpm, 1988 models had 83 kW (110 SAE HP) at 3,200 rpm. Peak torque is 270 Nm at 1,900 rpm for the 1988 model. Bore is 102 mm, stroke is 118 mm. OEM diesel in Australian specification Land Rover SIII Stage 1 and coil sprung 110, 120, and Land Rover Perentie models from 1981 to 1992. In Batangas, Philippines, it has been used in jeepneys as the "Barako".
    • The 4BD1T is a turbocharged version of the 3.9 L 4BD1, it was produced from 1985 and was fitted to Isuzu NPR trucks from 1986 and sold in the US. OEM diesel in Australian specifications Land Rover Perentie 6X6 models from 1989 to 1992. Different versions feature power ratings ranging from 90 to 100 kW (120-135 PS), peak torque ranges from 314 to 330 Nm at 1,800 rpm, also use in jeepneys built in Batangas.

    Differing capacities, there could be variations in the casting also. Did the 4BD1 and 4BD1T use identical blocks, or was there strengthening modifications made.



    • The 4BG1 is a 4.3L, non turbo, direct injection industrial and marine engine. The 4BG1T is a turbocharged version of the 4BG1 and is available in marine ratings to 200 PS (147 kW).

    Bore x stroke: 105 mm X 125 mm Displacement: 4,329 cc (264.2 cu in)


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    Was only a passing fancy. But in the spiel on the add they did state it was suitable for a fork lift. Therefore it would have to be adr compliant as fork lifts can be registered for road travel. Our crusty old work fork lift is registered so it can cross over the road to our other factory. As noted at the price it was worth a thought. Tis a big sucker though.
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    Not necessarily -

    1. Not all forklifts can necessrily be registered

    2. ADRs are different for different classes of vehicles - and despite the term 'tractor' sometimes used for Landrovers, they are actually not classed as such for ADRs, whereas I suspect forklifts are.
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