Everything Isuzu but the chassis and body? (4JB1-T thread)

[gromit]

I have Series III with a C240 Isuzu (as mentioned by Grey Ghost).

A company here made conversion kits for fitting these into Series Land Rovers back in the 70's, it mates to the Series box.
Isuzu C240 powered Series 3

Mine has a high ratio transfer box and is a bit slow off the mark but keeps up with modern traffic.

There are a few cracks in aluminium panels from the vibration !


Colin

[Senorbarbo]

I have Series III with a C240 Isuzu (as mentioned by Grey Ghost).

A company here made conversion kits for fitting these into Series Land Rovers back in the 70's, it mates to the Series box.
Isuzu C240 powered Series 3

Mine has a high ratio transfer box and is a bit slow off the mark but keeps up with modern traffic.

There are a few cracks in aluminium panels from the vibration !


Colin

Thanks ! This forum is probably the best all around source of information for LR modifications. And people is very helpful !

[cjc_td5]

Javier, I am interested that you said you can readily get Chinese copy Isuzu vehicles (and parts). I knew there where Chinese knock off engines, but only as industrial engines. I wonder what the knock off injector pumps are like? They are the hard to source part in OZ, and most are going to need a $2k rebuild now given their age...
Cheers, Chris

[V8Ian]

Is there any backup for the Chineseium ones? Not too many years ago, Cummins engines were going to scrap for want of minor parts, as there was no support for them here. Understandably, Cummins didn't want a bar, of them.

[Senorbarbo]

Javier, I am interested that you said you can readily get Chinese copy Isuzu vehicles (and parts). I knew there where Chinese knock off engines, but only as industrial engines. I wonder what the knock off injector pumps are like? They are the hard to source part in OZ, and most are going to need a $2k rebuild now given their age...
Cheers, Chris

In fact they are not "knock-off" engines, most of the times, but made under license ones. This means that there is a supervision from Isuzu on them, and they are as good as the ones made in Japan. I have a Series equipped with a new Toyota 4Y made in China with 20000 km on it by now, and is smooth and reliable.

being said this, yes, you can get also different qualities and some sort of "knock-offs" when you are in China. Some companies make the "long block" and some others just complete the assembly with lower quality components. I have been purchasing automotive and other e components in China for nearly 20 years, and I have managed many projects of complete and complex products. In other words, in your know what you do and you know how to do it, you can get high quality, not only on engines but on many other products.

Isuzu 4JB1-T is an engine that is being produced right now, you can buy new ones and every single part you need for maintenance. They are being sold to many countries in Asia, Africa and South America, and on this countries they need reliable vehicles and they are not so obsessed about global warming and so on.

Before purchasing an engine and will supervise everything on it, I will make it run, I will check the compression, and I just will buy from established and serious companies. Just one on every 30 companies you can find on alibaba, is a real one. Rest are traders, some serious but most of them not that much.

[Senorbarbo]

Is there any backup for the Chineseium ones? Not too many years ago, Cummins engines were going to scrap for want of minor parts, as there was no support for them here. Understandably, Cummins didn't want a bar, of them.

Check my previous post. I could day the same. If you know how to do things, you will get quality. We do manufacture many things for Landies, and the quality is exceptional, much higher than other parts made in "developed" countries.

[Senorbarbo]

After some research I have found that while it could be very interesting to transplant all the drivetrain and powertrain from a Chinese 4x4 pick-up (many of them are 4JB1T Daihatsu powered Hilux clones, this would involve major works on the chasis, having to move back and reverse at least one crossmember of it.

The benefits on the other hand would be noticeable, as the car would have stronger and more modern mechanics, with countless available and affordable parts almost round the world,. (4JB1Ts and gearboxes are being manufactured nowadays), taking an old Series to at least Japanese 1990's durability and quality standards.

All the material required would be to 3500-5000 US$, and on top of that you would have to add shipping of the parts, import duties and so on, which would be closer to 6000-7000 US$. Perhaps less, but is better not to be that optimistic I see this could work for someone who has some Series laying around, for a kind of serial production.

Anyway, while I have discarded this mod for myself, if anyone wants to think about it and want me to help, you know how to contact me.

Now I will move to another topic, on another siub-forum, which is a swap that we have already proven, which is fitting a Toyota 4Y on a Series.

Thanks for your input!

Javier