Thread: 200tdi or 3.9 Isuzu......

Originally Posted by Taz

Hang on a minute, I thought Tdi's had slightly more power and torque than 4BD1's. 4BD1T's are a different story!

okay okay... I guess I should have said 'usable torque' or torque where you need it

anyways, the other fellas have given you the G.O. on why the 4BD1 beats the TDI...

Why would you want a woosy 200tdi that sounds like a Peugoet (did I spell that right) when you can have an engine that sounds like your local fruit truck

Justin

Gents,

Crikey - enough of the usuable torque gumf already. There is a device you can use to exploit the torque of even the most narrow of torque ranges - it's called a gear box and a manual Tdi has 10 gears.

I believe your application (what you do with it) drives your belief of which engine is best. I am very happy with my Tdi and I would not prefer an isuzu for what I do. And I'm sure there are many good people who prefer the isuzu over the Tdi. And I think thats great. There are no winners and loosers, both are great engines.

Originally Posted by Taz

Gents,

Crikey - enough of the usuable torque gumf already. There is a device you can use to exploit the torque of even the most narrow of torque ranges - it's called a gear box and a manual Tdi has 10 gears.

I believe your application (what you do with it) drives your belief of which engine is best. I am very happy with my Tdi and I would not prefer an isuzu for what I do. And I'm sure there are many good people who prefer the isuzu over the Tdi. And I think thats great. There are no winners and loosers, both are great engines.

Good one Taz,

I work on all these engines, and If i was towing a 3.5 ton boat, it'd be the Isuzu no question. If I was touring outback and needed some big payload and ruggedness with good fuel economy and reliability, a 300Tdi 130CC. If I was doing lots of road miles and spent a good deal of time driving, and didn't need heaps of space and carrying stuff etc, a D2 Td5 with a chip would be the bees knees- comfort and performance.

It s all about your needs , they'll all do the job

JC

Thanks for all the advice and tips, I'm hoping to pick up the new toy in about a week. I'll post some pics etc then.
I've owned a 200tdi, aTD5 dual cab, a Series IIa Dormobile with a Perkins Diesel fitted, and at the moment a Series IIa SWB which is being sold to help fund the new one.
It will be interesting to see how it compares to the above.

i own a 1994 200tdi and must say that it is a way better car to drive than the 1986 3.9 isuzu that is in the family as well , it might have to do with age difference but everything in the tdi is much more user friendly ie: gearbox,steering,comfort etc etc my 200tdi has done just under 230,000k's and feels like it is almost brand new (not sloppy) but i can also say the isuzu has been a good old truck as well but if your looking for somthing with a bit more power look along the lines of the latest 300tdi my old man has a 1998 300tdi and it goes like a rocket compared to the 200 and the isuzu and is also very quiet . after saying that i am looking at in the not to distant future overhauling the old isuzu and i was wondering would anyone hav any sugestions in upgrading performance ?


anyways cheers!

Originally Posted by c.h.i.e.f

i own a 1994 200tdi and must say that it is a way better car to drive than the 1986 3.9 isuzu that is in the family as well , it might have to do with age difference but everything in the tdi is much more user friendly ie: gearbox,steering,comfort etc etc my 200tdi has done just under 230,000k's and feels like it is almost brand new (not sloppy) but i can also say the isuzu has been a good old truck as well but if your looking for somthing with a bit more power look along the lines of the latest 300tdi my old man has a 1998 300tdi and it goes like a rocket compared to the 200 and the isuzu and is also very quiet . after saying that i am looking at in the not to distant future overhauling the old isuzu and i was wondering would anyone hav any sugestions in upgrading performance ?


anyways cheers!

Is that old Isuzu non-turbo? If so there's a very obvious upgrade that'll make the 300tdi feel like a slug.

Have just got home with the 4BD1 120. Was a bit nervous jumping in a 19 yr old Land Rover that I didn't know for a 3&1/2 hour trip in the dark. We made it. Just posting this as I noticed on a long hill did not pull well as should with Turbo on it. It pulls well through the gears but won't hold power. At 80kmh in 4th(Santana) can feel a surge then when back of a bit comes clean. Has had new Filters 4000 Kms ago. I have Dyno specs here. when Turbo was fitted. 44kmh= 312nm & 35kw. 52kmh= 330nm & 44kw. 60kmh= 338nm & 54kw. 70kmh= 322nm & 60kw. 82kmh= 296nm & 62kw. 88kmh= 254nm & 61kw.
Was done by Turbo Glide Wollongong. Are these numbers what I should expect? 1st 4BD1 I've ever owned. Tony

PS. I didn't intend to post this on this thread. Sorry