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Thread: Query on setting up turbo on NA 4BD1

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    Quote Originally Posted by rar110 View Post
    I fitted a GT2560 (GT28R ?) to mine on a genuine Isuzu top mount T2 manifold. It spools up fast, engine doesn't smoke, so I don't think it is over fueling. As with Ben my compressor had to be rotated requiring some modification to the actuator arm. I had mine fitted by a Brisbane turbo specialist with a long and good reputation. The result was excellent but cost a lot more than Ben's. Two things the installer insisted on was an over boost safety valve and new injectors. I went 3" mandrell pipe with a lukey muffler.
    How much boost do you have and what rpm does it arrive? The factory overboost relief valve was set to 15psi on my engine. It went years ago.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rar110 View Post
    I fitted a GT2560 (GT28R ?) to mine on a genuine Isuzu top mount T2 manifold. It spools up fast, engine doesn't smoke, so I don't think it is over fueling. As with Ben my compressor had to be rotated requiring some modification to the actuator arm. I had mine fitted by a Brisbane turbo specialist with a long and good reputation. The result was excellent but cost a lot more than Ben's. Two things the installer insisted on was an over boost safety valve and new injectors. I went 3" mandrell pipe with a lukey muffler.
    besides the obvious ,a overboost safety valve, ????????
    i no see no hear nothing of,
    please explain?

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    Quote Originally Posted by dylan gover View Post
    besides the obvious ,a overboost safety valve, ????????
    i no see no hear nothing of,
    please explain?
    It is just a valve on either the inlet manifold or the pipe between the compressor outlet and the manifold. It is set so that if the wastegate sticks closed (etc), causing the turbo to overboost, then the valve will pop open and vent the excess pressure.

    There are a few pics floating around of genuine 4BD1T setups which show them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by isuzurover View Post
    It is just a valve on either the inlet manifold or the pipe between the compressor outlet and the manifold. It is set so that if the wastegate sticks closed (etc), causing the turbo to overboost, then the valve will pop open and vent the excess pressure.

    There are a few pics floating around of genuine 4BD1T setups which show them.
    A blow off valve...acheewww achewwww

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    Quote Originally Posted by rovercare View Post
    A blow off valve...acheewww achewwww

    fully sik bro!

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    Quote Originally Posted by rovercare View Post
    A blow off valve...acheewww achewwww
    I am sure there are some people with BOVs on diesels... You would have to install a throttle butterfly to get it to actuate though

    I know someone with an automatic rotary who installed a BOV

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    Quote Originally Posted by isuzurover View Post
    I am sure there are some people with BOVs on diesels... You would have to install a throttle butterfly to get it to actuate though

    I know someone with an automatic rotary who installed a BOV
    SD33 comes with a throttle butterfly, well the turbo equivelant does

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    Quote Originally Posted by rovercare View Post
    SD33 comes with a throttle butterfly, well the turbo equivelant does
    So do the Toyota B, L and KZ series.
    But that's not all, you get free head cracks too.

    Some diesels use a pneumatic governor, the butterfly pressure difference is what sets the fuelling. One advantage is reduced NOx emission due to less excess air. One big disadvantage is the pumping loss that goes with that.

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    While our Rangie isn't on the road yet we got a turbo kit from Turbo Glide in Wollongong, they are very helpful, we did the install it ourselves, a friend who is a pro welder brazed the oil feed to the designated nut and added the connector to the removable panel on the left side of the Isuzu.

    The turbo itself is based on the Garrett T25, if I heard John correctly Garrett added an internal wastegate which the standard T25 is missing, he said it is made for the army 6wd Landies.

    I asked a diesel mechanic we know about adjusting the injector pump to match the turbo, he told me to get the motor going and adjust fuel flow till we get the standard boost pressure, I'll try it his way first.

    John also told me to get my EGT probe and meter from Wadeair at Spring Hill near Orange, from memory I had to ask for the meter from China and a 8M X1 probe, I rang up and ordered the parts they were in our PO box the next morning. Talk about great service.


    Glenn

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Mutt View Post
    The turbo itself is based on the Garrett T25, if I heard John correctly Garrett added an internal wastegate which the standard T25 is missing, he said it is made for the army 6wd Landies.
    The T25's cover a whole family of garrett turbos with similar wheel sizes. The most common type (found in petrol japanese cars and sold aftermarket by garrett) do have an internal wastegate and usually have exhaust turbine housings with either 0.49 A/R or 0.64 A/R.

    But the T25 that Isuzu fitted to many of their 4BD1T and 4BD2T engines doesn't have the external wastegate, it's also fitted with the inlet flange from a T3 turbo. This will be the one that you are talking about above.

    Other turbos factory fitted to the Isuzu 4BD1T include a wastegated T25 with a T3 flange (these seem quite rare) and a wastegated IHI turbo that was used on the early 4BD1T's which came out in the mid 80's.

    My 4BD1T came with the Wastegated IHI, a good turbo but I had a crappy aircleaner cause dust erosion of the compressor wheel and found parts impossible to get.
    I now have a wastegated T25 with the 0.49 A/R turbine housing, this turbo came from a Nissan bluebird with the CA18DET engine.

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