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    I hear you Big Guy - I guess it's too late for me though, it's Isuzu or walking!

    Its not so much Isuzu diesels are agricultural - its the age and types of Isuzu's that end-up in Landies.

    The current model diesels out of Isuzu are as refined as you can get. Take the 3.0 litre 4JJ1 found in N series trucks, Holden Colorado and Isuzu D-MAX. I am working on a cost effective solution to get these into Landies.

    With all that said, I am starting to work on the beard also!
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    This is the Chinese copy of a 4BD1T. AU$3378 + freight direct from China.
    If I had money to play with (waste ??), I'd like to fit one of these to a Landy, just for interest. I certainly wouldn't have the same confidence in it as the real thing, but it would be fun to fit one, tweak it, boost it up and just drive it, maybe fit it to a bush rig and see how it lasts.

    '88 County Isuzu 4Bd1 Turbo Intercooled, '96 Defender 130 CC VNT
    '85 Isuzu 120 Trayback, '72 SIIA SWB Diesel Soft Top
    '56 SI Ute Cab


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    Quote Originally Posted by big guy View Post
    I don't get the thing with truck motors in Landies.

    My mate is doing same and I will not go in it.
    Its way too noisy and I feel like a filling is about to pop everytime we take off.

    Don't judge all Isuzu's by your mate's engine. How many different Isuzu Landys have you been in ? They vary a lot. My 4BD1T County is quieter, smoother and much more pleasant to drive than my Td5 Xtreme. Yes, the early one's were harsh, but things change.
    I know they are good motors and very reliable but they are so agriculture.

    They pull trees out of the ground by their roots and all but why I ask.
    I appreciate the excitement of them being made new again in Japan also but why not install a refined motor for that sort of money.

    You obviously don't really appreciate anything about the Isuzu. Like 'EchiDna' suggests, maybe your comments belong in General Chat. Afterall, you wouldn't walk in to a bar full of bikies and tell everyone that you think Harley's are crap would you.

    The only people that I ever see drive Isuzu Landies are bearded men, Is that a common denominator or just coincidence.

    You seem to have some strange negative views about the Isuzu Landy. I'm 42 and clean shaven, and I have 5 good mates all in their 30's and 40's, all drive Isuzu Landys and all clean shaven.

    On the other hand, each to their own and why not have a motor that outlives us all.
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    '88 County Isuzu 4Bd1 Turbo Intercooled, '96 Defender 130 CC VNT
    '85 Isuzu 120 Trayback, '72 SIIA SWB Diesel Soft Top
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    Yep, must have heard from the few clean shaven ones.

    My visual creation of the person that drives one will probably stand. My mate does not have a beard either, just that's how my Land Rover mechanic has described Isuzu Landy folks. Not to their face of course.

    I can see the attraction, don't get me wrong.
    One has to admit, its a very small community/group that has these notions and their enthusiasm usually stands out.

    Good on you though, we are all a little different.

    Happy lumbering.

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    I find the beard is a must in winter to help keep warm because the landrover heater certainly doesn't.

    Long live the Isuzu

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ichiban View Post
    I hear you Big Guy - I guess it's too late for me though, it's Isuzu or walking!

    Its not so much Isuzu diesels are agricultural - its the age and types of Isuzu's that end-up in Landies.

    The current model diesels out of Isuzu are as refined as you can get. Take the 3.0 litre 4JJ1 found in N series trucks, Holden Colorado and Isuzu D-MAX. I am working on a cost effective solution to get these into Landies.

    With all that said, I am starting to work on the beard also!
    I presume your work on the 4JJ1 will be electronic control?
    Kits already exist to fit 4JB1T's into landrovers so that side is already sorted.

    Do you have access to any real power/torque and fuel consumption curves? A BSFC map would be an excellent thing to have but I doubt they release those.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rijidij View Post
    Can anyone confirm what looks like a belt-driven air compressor (finned housing) located high on the front of the engine on the left hand side (top right in photo)?

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    Quote Originally Posted by isuzubob View Post
    Can anyone confirm what looks like a belt-driven air compressor (finned housing) located high on the front of the engine on the left hand side (top right in photo)?
    There are a lot of differences between that engine and a truck sourced 4BD1T.
    The Alternator is on the wrong side, it has a different oil and fuel filter location. The injector line setup is quite different and it has no oil feed to the front of the injector drive gear. I wonder if this suggests an industrial engine with no timing device.

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    Out of interest, have checked with Isuzu on new 4HE1T.

    8971700930 4HE1TQE (based on 98 model year NQR 450) Rec list price given was $9,629.00 +gst. The warehouse in Melbourne has stock.

    Pretty sure you could get this price down with a bit of haggling!

    Transmission that was fitted behind this engine was Isuzu MBP-6P? Not sure how you go for adaption.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dougal View Post
    I presume your work on the 4JJ1 will be electronic control?
    Kits already exist to fit 4JB1T's into landrovers so that side is already sorted.

    Do you have access to any real power/torque and fuel consumption curves? A BSFC map would be an excellent thing to have but I doubt they release those.
    Yep, the 4JJ1 is common rail electronic. Not as complicated as first thought. The industrial engine side of Isuzu use these engines as well and have all the electronic controls available to get it to run. Still doing some work on it but looks promising.

    Only specs I have is on the industrial 4JJ1
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