Thread: K-O-H 2013 With LR content

Seems like Team Gigglepin has just had to step down and concede the win. They have full hydro steering which is a breech of the rules in Stock mod. AFAIK, the EMC (every man challenge) race is for Stock, and Mod stock rigs. You need to have mechanical steering, yes hydo assist, but not full hydro. They also ran stickies which may or maynot be a breech also??

either way, they did extremely well against some very trick custom built rigs.

They will not fair so well in the full race against the pro Ultra4 rigs

Looks like they have conceeded the win to Currie.

Non conforming steering and tyres.

keep up Pete

funny you and I had this convo over a week ago, they have been over there and testing all week, doing qualifiing etc and do the whole race and only get picked up on it after???

all the pics we have seen from their photo shoots have clearly showed the full hydro.

Lol yep...

Sounds like they just wanted to race!

I had wondered if they had some weird mechanical link like that jeep last year but obviously not.

Shame really, but rules are rules.

having said that they must be happy with the car after the last weeks drama!

Oh I think it is totally fair given that it is a clear break of the rules. And I dont think they set out to misslead or cheat anyone.....hell its pretty obvious that its full hydro haha

from SimonS on Devon 4x4

Originally Posted by "simon_s" on Devon4x4

Just to quell the fires a bit...
Just been to see Jim and co. They are all completely stoked at their performance today. Jim knew before he started the race that his car did not meet the regs re the hydro steering. The team wanted to race the EMC as they were here and wanted to make the most of their American adventure. Dave Cole gave them permission to race, saying that the steering would only be an issue 'if they won'. Well they did, and Jim told me he knew when he crossed the line that he probably would be disqualified. The team bear no ill will to the organizers, John Currie or anyone else.
Jim didn't know about the no sticky tires prior though.

and a quote from the man himself:

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EMC Press release from Jim:

We have been lucky enough to have the opportunity to come to King of the Hammers, and when the car was on its way out we had a conversation, "wouldn't it be great if we could have go at the Everymans Challenge" as our vehicle is pretty much a stock car, its road legal, so we asked Dave Cole and he gave us the nod, Yes we could run EMC. So here we are and we lined up at... the back of the start line this morning. Before we started the race we were made aware that our hydraulic steering didn't really fit the rules, but we weren't too bothered as we were after wheel time, getting out there having some fun and getting more experience desert and rock racing. Dave said if you do win then expect a protest, to which we replied that we didn't expect to win.
We lined up at the back of the grid in 33rd and set off in hot pursuit of the cars in front of us.
The cars in front are amazing too, with both stock and 'modified' running, and a lot of them buggy-esque whislt retaining the silhouette of a stock car. We have the smallest wheelbase, the smallest engine, same size tyres, and we are running stock coil springs. We had a great race, and to be able to lock horns with the likes of John Currie, that was special, very special! We passed John finally during the last phases of the race up a sand hill and it was especially awesome to do so using our own designed and manufactured Gigglepin GP84 winch. A quote from the commentary was" both cars are stopped, wait Team gigglepin is now moving at 7mph" our team back at camp all shouted "they are winching!" says it all really!
We had caught John before pit 2a but we caught a rock and got a flat, and little beknown to us we were 200 yds from the pit we changed the tyre, where as we should have limped to the pt and got them to do it. This lost us a further 12 mins.
When we finished the race, Dave cole was the first one to come up and congratulate us. The first thing we asked was "Is this where we get disqualified?" we all had a laugh and a joke and carried on to the stage, a little while after the protests started coming in, so we went to discuss it with Dave. We learnt that there were also protests about our "sticky" tyres. We had no idea that they were illegal, and so as we were pulled on 2 accounts it was a no brainer that the title belonged to someone else and so we went up on stage and let the guys know. We relinquished our victory and passed it down to 2nd place John Currie. We have no hard feelings, as we have had an amazing time. Its great to be able to race against these guys, yes we didbn't conform but no one can take away from us what we have achieved.. we had parts during the build up where we didn't even think we would get to the start line, and many of the trails we raced today are virgin ground for us and we have shown what we can do.

Tomorrow we will line up for King of the Hammers

And a few pics I have borrowed from other places.