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    In the early 1970s there was a DS featured in a TV ad in France. It was driven over a spike to blow one front tyre, and then immediately given a crash stop, which it managed in an almost straight line - with the driver's hands off the steering wheel. Try that with any other car.

    I have on one occasion destroyed a rear tyre because I did not notice it was flat, as the handling was unchanged.

    Another interesting point. As I found when a woman drove her Fairlane through a stop sign into the side of mine, the allowable chassis alignment accuracy was less than a millimetre, and was beyond the capabilities of almost all available chassis jigs. All suspension arms are attached to the chassis via tapered roller bearings, with no rubber at all used anywhere. This makes them noisy, but explains a lot of the handling, and also exceptionally good tyre life.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JDNSW View Post
    In the early 1970s there was a DS featured in a TV ad in France. It was driven over a spike to blow one front tyre, and then immediately given a crash stop, which it managed in an almost straight line - with the driver's hands off the steering wheel. Try that with any other car.

    I have on one occasion destroyed a rear tyre because I did not notice it was flat, as the handling was unchanged.

    Another interesting point. As I found when a woman drove her Fairlane through a stop sign into the side of mine, the allowable chassis alignment accuracy was less than a millimetre, and was beyond the capabilities of almost all available chassis jigs. All suspension arms are attached to the chassis via tapered roller bearings, with no rubber at all used anywhere. This makes them noisy, but explains a lot of the handling, and also exceptionally good tyre life.

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    There remarkably tough "underneath" given the bodypanels might are frail lightly made merde .... Have you seen the rally senegal films from the period. At one point they have one at high speed offroad on 3wheels (they must have used all there spare tyres ). At another point they found the fastest way to travel was down the rail line ......... So the poor bloody car is hammered over the railway ties at high speed for miles on end, and somehow doesn't break.

    They were quite low powered in there time, the reason they won those brutal rallies is they were among the very few cars to actually manage to finish.

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    There's a bloke out sth penrith that deals in 2nd hand parts for citroen. He's been there for ages.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DoubleChevron View Post
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    They were quite low powered in there time, the reason they won those brutal rallies is they were among the very few cars to actually manage to finish.

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    I don't think that was the only reason, although it certainly helped, but the suspension enabled them to travel much faster than anything else on very rough roads, and the handling enabled the speed to be maintained round corners, plus the brakes being better than anything else on the road meant you could leave braking till later. And the low drag meant you did not need the power for high speed anyway. In 1964 I drove my brother's ID19 wagon (69HP from memory) the 315 miles from Brisbane to Roma in under four hours, and that included Ipswich Rd and going through Toowoomba. (Who needs more power?) I was young and foolish then.

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