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    I would have concerns if the rear chamfer reduced overall rim contact with the hub ie became an object 'jammed' between the rim and hub. Otherwise good idea.

    Regarding alloys, from the one vehicle I have that has alloys, the bolts are different to those used on steel wheels, and seem to be a more precise sliding fit ie alignment is still via the bolts and not the hub - happy to be corrected.

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    The hubs are the same on the 300 TDi I am reliably informed.


    The hub centric rings will not align your wheels or save you having to wheel balance. They will centre the rim when fitted so you are not relying solely on the nuts doing all the work and for anyone who has had Dynamic stlye rims will know this can be an issue.


    For me the main benefit is if wheel nuts come loose. The ring will stop the "flopping" of the rim which will have an enormous shearing effect on the studs.


    The fit is slightly tighter than the original steel rims which came with the 130.

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    Quote Originally Posted by workingonit View Post
    I would have concerns if the rear chamfer reduced overall rim contact with the hub ie became an object 'jammed' between the rim and hub. Otherwise good idea.

    Regarding alloys, from the one vehicle I have that has alloys, the bolts are different to those used on steel wheels, and seem to be a more precise sliding fit ie alignment is still via the bolts and not the hub - happy to be corrected.




    It doesn't reduce contact at all. If you check a rim there is a slight rounding on the rim and the chamfer sits in area. The chamfer is just enough for the rim to retain it.

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    Something else which I have not explained....


    Generally people go to Dynamic rims so they can fit larger tyres. The larger tyres, either wider, larger diameter or both, place more strain on the wheel nuts. Many of us have had to loosen and re-tighten nuts to get the rim sitting correctly.


    The hub centric rims greatly assist this regard as the rim is already centred before the nuts are tightened.

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    A bigger issue i have experienced is the actually wheel nuts

    http://www.aulro.com/afvb/discovery-...heel-nuts.html

    http://www.aulro.com/afvb/technical-...ml#post2237763


    using the factory wheels nuts have the incorrect taper and eventually elongate the holes, in my case this caused a huge shimmy...

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    The first batch of Hub Centric Rings are now in stock and going fast so get in quick.


    They are not on my web page as it is about to be upgraded so drop me a PM, phone me on 0414 778 668 or email me at


    nugget@nuggetstuff.com


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    Quote Originally Posted by Duarte19 View Post
    A bigger issue i have experienced is the actually wheel nuts

    http://www.aulro.com/afvb/discovery-...heel-nuts.html

    Sunraysias


    using the factory wheels nuts have the incorrect taper and eventually elongate the holes, in my case this caused a huge shimmy...

    This is correct. When you go to Dynamic rims, you need to get new wheel nuts from Dynamic that will hold the rim correctly.

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    Nugget, I realise on reflection my earlier post sounds very negative. It was not the intent, as all I was stating is that the factory units weren't hub centric either.

    What I would like to say is... Well done on finding the solution to keeping the authorities at bay... And with the added bonus of making centralising the wheels on these vehicles easier...

    Good old Aussie ingenuity... Problem > Solution!


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    No problem mate. All good.


    What I can say is that I have had a series of minor steering wheel shudders with Dynamic rims on both the 110 and 130. Having fitted them to my truck for the testing I can say that I have not had any issues since.


    Again, the rings will not fix inherent problems but I believe that they assist in the following way....


    Instead of the nuts having to do 100% the locating, the rings centre the hubs and the nuts only have to do the final bit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nugge t View Post
    No problem mate. All good.


    What I can say is that I have had a series of minor steering wheel shudders with Dynamic rims on both the 110 and 130. Having fitted them to my truck for the testing I can say that I have not had any issues since.


    Again, the rings will not fix inherent problems but I believe that they assist in the following way....


    Instead of the nuts having to do 100% the locating, the rings centre the hubs and the nuts only have to do the final bit.
    With that in the light.


    you havent done anything new here, this has been done before in other applications.

    I personally disagree with your first statement that its a hub centric ring. Its not its just a centering ring. yes its a little semantic and picking on precise wording but thats one of those things that laywers and insurance companies love.


    As a fitting aid however...

    Iv seen people struggling to get normal landrover rims with big rubber on them to bolt up properly without killing the rim or the nut or the studs or if they do not getting them to torque in properly so the wheel comes loose in the next 10 Km.
    . and I personally dont like the dyamic rims because they dont all like the OEM wheel nuts and while it can work if you pay enough attention its very easy to not pay that much attention and get it wrong.


    Feel free to quote me on this so here it is in quotable form (assuming a set is 4 of the rings and the quote is used appropriately)

    These centralizing rings are an aid to prevent miss fitting of your rims to your hubs prior to tightening up the wheel nuts and the potential outcome of that. As a device that minimizes the opportunity for error in an area that directly involves vehicle safety they're worth the $130
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