Thread: China , rattling the sabre, threatens Australia

Originally Posted by Pickles2

Well, I don't mind being flamed
Pickles.

I hope you are not trying to promote that type of behaviour in this part of the forum?

Originally Posted by bob10

I hope you are not trying to promote that type of behaviour in this part of the forum?

CERTAINLY NOT.
Pickles.

I assume the Chinese know they would get flogged in a naval fight with the USA, but there would be some Chinese military hotheads who would like to try anyway, but be held back by the pragmatic leadership, which seems to believe in a softly, softly approach.
Nor would the USA's current leadership want to provoke conflict, but what if Trump was President of the USA?
This could go pear-shaped very quickly if the hotheads prevailed. Our best interests lie in hosing down the reckless talk, not chest-beating, I think.

Originally Posted by roverv8

TBH, I think Australia makes far to much noise with these issues...
Us by ourselves don't stand a chance against a country like China, so why do we make so much noise.
Our polies need to sit back & shut up, & only get involved when it comes crunch time. who do they think they are impressing...
Yes im glad we have big brother in the USA, but i think our country is far to vocal with these issues,
especially upsetting a trading partner, i don't see how it's necessary to do this at this point.
Why are the we & USA so friendly with the Japs now, have they forgotten Pearl Harbor, the bombing of Darwin, suddenly were all military pals.....

"All it will take for evil to prevail is for good people to do nothing"

Edmund Burke.

In this context China is the 'evil doer', using it's newly acquired power to bully and intimidate its weaker neighbours (including Australia) and the rest of the world.

Isolationism or burying ones head in the sand is not the answer to an aggressive and expansionist China.

Deano

Remember last time China tried to bully Vietnam? It didn't go so well for them.

Originally Posted by DeanoH

"All it will take for evil to prevail is for good people to do nothing"

Edmund Burke.

In this context China is the 'evil doer', using it's newly acquired power to bully and intimidate its weaker neighbours (including Australia) and the rest of the world.

Isolationism or burying ones head in the sand is not the answer to an aggressive and expansionist China.

Deano

Don't forget, China has Australia over a trade barrel. We need them, more than they need us. Also, giving China control over the Port of Darwin, doesn't look like such a good idea, now. The sale of the largest irrigation project in Australia to the Chinese , Cubby Station [ google it] looks like another good idea. Not sure what you mean by newly acquired power.

Originally Posted by Geedublya

Remember last time China tried to bully Vietnam? It didn't go so well for them.

True, but you are talking about a Nation at war since 1939, [Vietnam] fighting the Japanese, French, Americans [ & allies], and patient enough to beat them all. A nation of soldiers, battle hardened over years of conflict, one that thinks losing one million people is a means to an end. And Australia? Battle hardened doesn't mean fighting for a seat at the MCG grand final. True, we have a core of professional military , as good as any. Better than most. But I suggest we have neither the resources, or the stomach, for a prolonged fight with China. Politicians start wars, Foreign Affairs Ministers should practice diplomacy.

Originally Posted by DeanoH

"All it will take for evil to prevail is for good people to do nothing"

Edmund Burke.

In this context China is the 'evil doer', using it's newly acquired power to bully and intimidate its weaker neighbours (including Australia) and the rest of the world.

Isolationism or burying ones head in the sand is not the answer to an aggressive and expansionist China.

Deano

ok, so what do you propose, start an all out war...

the horse has already bolted, they've already built their islands & militarized them,
Excuse me China, can you please dismantle what you've already built, not going to happen, & they will defend them...
They will do as they please, Just as Puttin has done,
why wasn't the rest of the world onto this before it got this far, in both cases
I didn't say bury our heads in the sand, I said sit back until if & when it comes crunch time, & help who we need to.
Australia is like a chiwawa barking at a rottweiler with this, why **** them off at this point, they're a strong trade partner.

P.S im not Chinese, nor do i have any ties/family Chinese
also I dont see anyone taking care of that clown in N Korea playing with nukes, "All it will take for evil to prevail is for good people to do nothing"