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    Quote Originally Posted by DiscoMick View Post
    there is also the safety issue with people having heart attacks or getting lost or falling, who then have to be rescued. We don't let people climb to the top of St Marys Cathedral, for example.
    The nanny state argument.

    Yes people should be allowed to climb it.
    It should be a matter of personal choice.

    When it comes down to it, it's just a big rock.
    People climbing on it doesn't change anything in regard to its aboriginal significance.
    It's not broken. It's "Carbon Neutral".


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    Quote Originally Posted by DiscoMick View Post
    I suggest that could be a separate topic in Current Affairs as it would be impossible to discuss properly without going political, which isn't allowed outside CA.

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    Nothing stopping you starting one up there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by VladTepes View Post
    .....When it comes down to it, it's just a big rock.....
    That's the same as saying that a cathedral "is just another building".

    If someone wandered into your house, kicked their boots off, opened the fridge and helped themselves to your beer, I reckon you'd be a tad upset.
    Then you ask "what the hell you doing in my bloody house?", and they answer "well it's just a building, what you getting upset for?"

    May not have any significance to them, but it sure as hell would to you......

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    Quote Originally Posted by sheerluck View Post
    That's the same as saying that a cathedral "is just another building".

    If someone wandered into your house, kicked their boots off, opened the fridge and helped themselves to your beer, I reckon you'd be a tad upset.
    Then you ask "what the hell you doing in my bloody house?", and they answer "well it's just a building, what you getting upset for?"

    May not have any significance to them, but it sure as hell would to you......
    If someone did that in my house they better offer me one of my beers or there will be trouble
    Well if said people want to class it as their personal house which it aint go and lock it up and put some sort of security there if not do`nt argue or sook .
    Honestly a dead criminal will not tell lies or get a chance to defend them self in a court of law Now would anyone like to come break into my place and drink my beer

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    Quote Originally Posted by sheerluck View Post
    That's the same as saying that a cathedral "is just another building".

    If someone wandered into your house, kicked their boots off, opened the fridge and helped themselves to your beer, I reckon you'd be a tad upset.
    Then you ask "what the hell you doing in my bloody house?", and they answer "well it's just a building, what you getting upset for?"

    May not have any significance to them, but it sure as hell would to you......
    Not quite sure it's anywhere near the same thing as such. But funny how you can actually get guided tours through most, if not all cathedrals,, one only has to ask if it's not on the tourist list. Those of notoriety are mahout tourist attractions. These are buildings that are "man made", not just part of the landscape.

    Coming into "my house",, something that has been "paid for" by "me", through hard work, sweat and tears, this is an entirely different matter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sheerluck View Post
    If someone wandered into your house, kicked their boots off, opened the fridge and helped themselves to your beer, I reckon you'd be a tad upset.
    If my house was leased out to "National Parks", they'd be quite entitled to.
    Uluru is not a privately owned property.

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    Hey maybe mt Everest has some religeous meaning to someone but its not stopping ppl climbing it or even dying on it. Why do ppl want to climb Uluru??? COZ ITS THERE.

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    It's been my experience here that when the thread starts going round and round, with the same old points bought up by new posters, even though their questions have been answered early in the thread, [ which they have obviously not read,] time to move on.
    I’m pretty sure the dinosaurs died out when they stopped gathering food and started having meetings to discuss gathering food

    A bookshop is one of the only pieces of evidence we have that people are still thinking

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chops View Post

    Not quite sure it's anywhere near the same thing as such. But funny how you can actually get guided tours through most, if not all cathedrals,, one only has to ask if it's not on the tourist list. Those of notoriety are mahout tourist attractions. These are buildings that are "man made", not just part of the landscape.

    Coming into "my house",, something that has been "paid for" by "me", through hard work, sweat and tears, this is an entirely different matter.
    The point has been missed. Vlad described Uluru in a rather dismissive fashion in his post as "just a big rock", where it has already been made clear early in the thread that it does have major cultural significance. I was merely attempting to draw parallels with places of either religious or personal significance, the question of ownership does not necessarily arise.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bob10 View Post
    It's been my experience here that when the thread starts going round and round, with the same old points bought up by new posters, even though their questions have been answered early in the thread, [ which they have obviously not read,] time to move on.
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    Not so, in this case.
    It is an interesting subject with varying views, and many new ones, for me anyway.
    You have said, I don't "get it". Well simply because I disagree with you does not mean that at all,...it simply means that we do not agree.
    One of my very best friends was Grahame Walsh (I will try to put up a link), with whom I went to school with in Toowoomba in the sixties. Grahame grew up with Aboriginal People at Injune where his family were graziers, I think some of the family may still be there. Grahame became Australia's foremost expert in Aboriginal Rock Art, receiving Honarary degrees, doctorates etc, he also wrote many books, some of which are collectors items now. He took over 1.3 MILLION photos, & would've visited all the sacred/rock art sites in Australia. He built Takarakka at Carnarvon Gorge, where I visited him and was told by Aboriginals there that Grahame "had forgotten more of Aboriginal Legend, than most Aboriginals ever knew". We had many many discussions relative to Aboriginal People, so perhaps I may "get it"a bit more than you think. He was an amazing man with huge knowledge.
    There is a post in this thread that mentions ways that it is possible to climb, without offence to anyone,...Grahame told me something similar.
    But I have been listening to everyone's views, and I will just say this:
    Like i said, I have climbed, many years ago when i was fit enough to do so, but even if I was fit enough to do so ,.AGAIN, I would not do so. I would still advise anyone who hasn't, & is able to do so, to climb for reasons I've mentioned, but NOW, out of respect, I believe once should be enough, well it is for me anyway.
    My computer is playing up at the moment, so I can't put up the link, but will try to do so asap.I can do the link now

    http://www.theage.com.au/articles/20...394002333.html

    Pickles.

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