Thread: Should tourists climb Uluru?

Originally Posted by Pickles2

Well, I don't think the thread "has been done to death", and I'm not going to ask anyone else, I don't need to, because in view of your comments (of which i have NO issues, none at all) in this thread, I honestly thought that you would be able to answer, a 100% innocent question, and it IS, a genuine "knowledge seeking" question.
So, in a final endeavour, could you please have a go at answering my question with respect to why the signs are worded that way?
Pickles.

How do you know that the signs weren't written by some hangers on from the green movement. Or some other parasite mob. I doubt that the Aboriginal custodians would lower themselves to do a childish thing like that. If they did, there would a focus group in the back ground some where. I've had a go, back off. What's next? did a dingo take the baby? I get the impression you are posting, just to stir the pot. Well, the pots empty.

Originally Posted by Pickles2

Well, I don't think the thread "has been done to death", and I'm not going to ask anyone else, I don't need to, because in view of your comments (of which i have NO issues, none at all) in this thread, I honestly thought that you would be able to answer, a 100% innocent question, and it IS, a genuine "knowledge seeking" question.
So, in a final endeavour, could you please have a go at answering my question with respect to why the signs are worded that way?
Pickles.

Fair enough too Pickles... (and I see a few more mulberry bush answers instead of straight info sharing).

Over here in Malaysia you have to be careful to understand when "yes" doesn't always mean yes with some of the cultures you deal with on a daily basis.

I too don't know if thats part of Australian aboriginal culture. Would like to know.

Originally Posted by tact

Fair enough too Pickles... (and I see a few more mulberry bush answers instead of straight info sharing).

Over here in Malaysia you have to be careful to understand when "yes" doesn't always mean yes with some of the cultures you deal with on a daily basis.

I too don't know if thats part of Australian aboriginal culture. Would like to know.

There are many avenues to find that out, the least being a Land Rover Forum. If you were serious, you would go down those avenues. Mulberry bush answers? Share straight information here, chances are, you just get the trolls pushing to the limit. And, I am willing to bet, you have not looked at the thread, in its entirety. Goodbye.

So maybe all us white fellas asking legit questions are all trolls now .
Come on Bob do`nt sink to a all time low .
We are all being fair here and everyone has had a go at understanding each side of the fence here

Rangie,...You have "hit the nail on the head", ...there is no ulterior/sinister motive here,...I'm simply asking for an explanation from Bob, regarding the wording on the signs in question,......"?Offensive"?...as Bob says?...No way,...any comments relative to this thread ain't offensive to me, & do not become offensive to me,....unless they are personal, which comments/posts will never emanate from me.
I was not the "O.P." in his instance,....doesn't matter,...whatever your views are, we should all be able to air our views, which we can, at the moment, in this great country of ours,.....BUT,...it's something I don't take for granted, because I think things are changing?
I don't find anyone's views "offensive", why should I?...they're just different to mine,...just different.
Nevertheless, an answer to my original question would be good.
Pickles.

Originally Posted by rangieman

So maybe all us white fellas asking legit questions are all trolls now .
Come on Bob do`nt sink to a all time low .
We are all being fair here and everyone has had a go at understanding each side of the fence here

Goodbye.

Originally Posted by Pickles2

Rangie,...You have "hit the nail on the head", ...there is no ulterior/sinister motive here,...I'm simply asking for an explanation from Bob, regarding the wording on the signs in question,......"?Offensive"?...as Bob says?...No way,...any comments relative to this thread ain't offensive to me, & do not become offensive to me,....unless they are personal, which comments/posts will never emanate from me.
I was not the "O.P." in his instance,....doesn't matter,...whatever your views are, we should all be able to air our views, which we can, at the moment, in this great country of ours,.....BUT,...it's something I don't take for granted, because I think things are changing?
I don't find anyone's views "offensive", why should I?...they're just different to mine,...just different.
Nevertheless, an answer to my original question would be good.
Pickles.

Goodbye, troll.

Originally Posted by Pickles2

Bob, I have a question for you.
Despite what you may think, & despite the fact that We disagree, maybe you may choose to believe that I have been giving this issue some thought.
So, I've been doing a bit of "googling", and I have discovered that some of the signs around The Rock, placed there on behalf of the Anangu People say, words to the effect, "Please don't climb", "We'd prefer that you did not" etc. I have read that these words are sort of a "characteristic" of Aboriginal People who do not like to use the word "No". Is this correct?
Anyway, with respect to that, if those words remain, and that is all there is to disuade climbing, I would say there will be no end to it.
Pickles.

On behalf of the OP to answer your question that I have highlighted in blue

There are some aboriginal tribes that tend to not use the word no.
There are some aboriginal tribes that have no issue with it.

there isnt a definitive single answer for your question for the aboriginals as a whole (and I'm not counting the partials in this they have generally have no problem saying no and a lot of other funny whiteman words their tribal elders would be ashamed to know they use) Very vaguely it would be like going to Europe and assuming that the whole continent is the same as the first country you visit.