Thread: two post hoist

Originally Posted by bee utey

Dunno why a 2 post hoist is such a problem,

I do. You've got to own an odd european car to appreciate this.
That is, the car is odd and european. Not all european cars are odd.

For what its worth. BMW workshop manual for Discovery 1, vol 1 Introduction p6 "The manufacturers of Land Rover...DOES NOT recommend using 'two post' ramps that employ four adjustable support arms..."

They recommend a drive on ramp where support is by the wheels, with an incorporated lift if wheels free is required.

I once lifted my Toyota LCruiser Troopy by the chassis so I could drop axle assemblies for spring bush replacement.

I used four hydraulic trolleys, placed as far forward and rear ward on the chassis as possible, much the same as you would position four arms on a two poster.

Once in that position if you leaned on the front bumper you could feel the rear start to lift off the rear supports - the engine/gearbox/front axle almost outweighed the rear two thirds of the vehicle. Take off something like the rear axle or transfer case then the vehicle is really out of balance in that scenario. I dropped the front axle first to try and maintain balance. I assume you'd have similar issues with a Rover.

Not that all Chinese stuff is junk, but the neighbour works for a crane company where directives are to use Italian, USA or other quality manufacturered lifts - with cheaper lifts too many instances of broken cast iron supports and vehicles slipping off.

Originally Posted by workingonit

For what its worth. BMW workshop manual for Discovery 1, vol 1 Introduction p6 "The manufacturers of Land Rover...DOES NOT recommend using 'two post' ramps that employ four adjustable support arms..."

They recommend a drive on ramp where support is by the wheels, with an incorporated lift if wheels free is required.

I once lifted my Toyota LCruiser Troopy by the chassis so I could drop axle assemblies for spring bush replacement.

I used four hydraulic trolleys, placed as far forward and rear ward on the chassis as possible, much the same as you would position four arms on a two poster.

Once in that position if you leaned on the front bumper you could feel the rear start to lift off the rear supports - the engine/gearbox/front axle almost outweighed the rear two thirds of the vehicle. Take off something like the rear axle or transfer case then the vehicle is really out of balance in that scenario. I dropped the front axle first to try and maintain balance. I assume you'd have similar issues with a Rover.

Not that all Chinese stuff is junk, but the neighbour works for a crane company where directives are to use Italian, USA or other quality manufacturered lifts - with cheaper lifts too many instances of broken cast iron supports and vehicles slipping off.

The first thing I do when putting a vehicle on a two poster is lift it about 18 inches off the ground. I then grab one end of the vehicle and give it a good shake. If it does not lift any part off the hoist pad doing this, it wont fall when working on it.

I would rather have my Disco on the two poster than a large front wheel drive, where all the weight is at the front and little at the rear. I reckon a weight lifter could lift the rear of a front drive car.

Originally Posted by Vern

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I got this one , tufflift aren't sure why its called a 3.7, as its identical to the 4tonne hoist except higher.

Like the look of this one will do some measuring over Xmas break


Cheers and thanks all for your input........... don't know why but every time I lay on my back under a car I feel nauseous hence lift consideration.

Originally Posted by Mick_Marsh

I do. You've got to own an odd european car to appreciate this.
That is, the car is odd and european. Not all european cars are odd.

124" wheelbase (longer than a big old chev impala) .... and 1/4inch ground clearance if you pump the tyres up really tight



this is one sitting on it's bumpstops (sadly not mine a random piccie from the internet).



this is what I have at the moment ... sucky compared to a hoist ... but if you keep and eye on ebay, you can get an old set of alignment ramps that tilt. You can winch a car with zero ground clearance onto them. But they also fit into a shed with no roof clearance

Forget the pit suggestion someone made. When I was a kid I spend a lot of time digging a pit in my fathers shed. We lined it with a plastic liner, angle the floor and put a small 'hole' in one end so any moisture would collect into that and we could scoop it out.

We found if there wasn't a broken car always parked over it .... when you need it, the damn thing still managed to be half full of water, so you'd have to pump/bucket it dry. I can remember at least 3 times I stepped backwards into it ( AARRRrhhhhhh ), one of those times I was carrying a gearbox. bloody dangerous if you have young kids around that can fall into them too

These cars are well known for doing a nose dive off of two post hoist..... especially if the fuel tank is empty
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seeya,
Shane L.

Originally Posted by Vern

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I got this one , tufflift aren't sure why its called a 3.7, as its identical to the 4tonne hoist except higher.

I think there trying too tell you something

With a 2 post hoist drill a couple of extra holes to suit 12mm threaded inserts about 4000mm between fit socket head grub screws.When you want to drop a diff,bullbar or something that is going to upset balance install a eye bolt and ratchet strap

I am looking at putting one in
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will be off to pick it up in the morning
if you go into most workshops these days the only four poster you will find is the wheel aligner all of ours when I was working in the workshop were 2 posters and we serviced /repaired 4wds on them all the time