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Thread: LR Rims & Control Rider Suspension - the saga continues - arrrrgh

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    I will whip a wheel off our car trailer tonight and put an alloy on it to see. It has alko parallel bearing hubs. Unless they've changed the design to "****** huge" in the last couple of years.

    In the past we've had RRS alloys on parallel bearing hubs, albeit with 16mm spacers and longer studs to suit. D1/Defender is much larger internally...

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    Looking at the web site they are not using Al-Ko hubs.

    The pictures show a long bearing hub.
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    Hmm... by my measurements the spigot is actually too deep for the alloys, I'll be damned. There must be a different version with a shorter spigot that I've used on other trailers.

    So there's two issues, your wheels won't fit the hubs, nor will they suit the offset they've used. Learn something new everyday.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MR LR View Post
    Hmm... by my measurements the spigot is actually too deep for the alloys, I'll be damned. There must be a different version with a shorter spigot that I've used on other trailers.

    So there's two issues, your wheels won't fit the hubs, nor will they suit the offset they've used. Learn something new everyday.
    I measured my old Al-Ko at @65mm from wheel mounting face to end of the bearing cap.
    The duel alloy's are @70mm internally so at least the cap can't fall off.

    Unfortunately this does not help with this situation with a longer snout.
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    Hi Kyle. Many thanks for the PM, and ironically, the answers have started coming in, with more to follow (dealing with 3 companies), so will wait until tomorrow, then provide what will hopefully be a comprehensive and satisfactory resolution. Cheers Gavin
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    I thought I edited this to include Will and provide an update, but it appears to have disappeared. Great help guys and will provide more confirmed info tomorrow. It appears the snout is too big!!!!! Cheers Gavin
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    To get the thing moving get a set of Defender steel rims,it will negate the issue for now.Im sure they are fairly available ex new Defenders.
    I had to bore my D2 alloys to suit the electric brakes on my camper trailer.Later I was given a D2 steel rim,it fits perfectly.
    You can machine your alloys later,if thats how you decide to go.
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    THE END - and many thanks to all of the many who offered help!

    After all that, including buying a local set of Defender alloys with good tyres and express sending them to Vic, yes G&S (the AU gurus) say they cannot fit them to the Control Rider suspension because their stub protrusion wont fit through the centre LR hole. Would have been nice if they had checked and told me that 8 weeks ago. Would have saved a lot of heartache and unnecessary worrying.

    So, now we are going back to square 1 and fitting their standard off road alloys and standard 10 ply LT 265 75 16R tyres - at no extra cost to either the local dealer or me ( I was originally supplying the LR rims as part of the overall cost/deal).
    At least SWAMBO is happy that we will have standard/saleable (toyo 200 I think) rim centres, but I now have a spare set of can't use Defender tyres/rims (once they come back from the dark world).

    As one who came over many years ago to improve the breed, and apologies to the millions of good eastern staters, why wasn't Jesus born in the ES?
    Because they couldn't find 3 wise men!

    Rant over, a reasonable outcome for all, and thanks again for all your help on this definitely the best website around.

    Now to get these bloody staples out of my knee and get my life back (what's left of it).
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    Good see you have got to the bottom of the issue.
    I wonder if this is the first time they have had this rim over axle occurrence.






    If your not needing the Defender rims why not list them in the Markets section?
    Could sell them from where they are or a member could do a temporary storage maybe?
    It would save on transport costs for you.
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    Thanks Alien. I can get the tyres/rims returned to Perth at no charge, and potentially more saleable here albeit a smaller,slower market, given I paid top $ being in a hurry.

    Which reminds me, if my offer is accepted, I'll have a D2 rear section set of sliders/fridge slide frame to get from Warragul to here. I was hoping to put it on JAYBOROVERS trailer, but I think I'm too late/have missed the boat/truck.
    Again, thanks for your generous offers of assistance. Cheers Gavin
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