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    Wheel bearings..what is going on??

    Hi all,


    I have a 1998 Hawk and we are preparing for an Central Australia Desert trip in September. I decided to check the wheel bearings for maintenance. I now face confusion!!

    I have a brake hub from Alko which appears to be more Ford than Holden. The outer bearing set from the ID numbers indicate its a Ford Slimline bearing set. The inner bearings set from the ID numbers indicate a Holden Inner Bearing set with a Holden seal.

    I have looked up the Alko website and all these ID numbers do match and the bearings all fit nicely on the axle.

    Can anyone explain what has happened here?? I thought you have either a Ford or Holden axle and the bearings to suit.

    This problem has just created a bigger issue if I happen to destroy bearings kilometers out of town....now I have to source two manufacurers bearings. Spares will be taken but still have to search & purchase.

    Sorry mate...I only have the one!!

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    if that is the case it wont be a problem to get the bearings seprate.
    you dont have to buy both.
    you can go the any bearing shop and ask for 1 set inner (cup and cone) for holden and 1 set outter (cup and cone) ford!

    although ive never seen or heard of this b4, take both 2 sets to skf/cbc etc.... and they will tell you what you have.

    the holden numbers should be LM11910 and LM11949 small set
    and LM67010 and LM67048 large set.





    cheers phil

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    Correct again, Phil

    I have taken the numbers directly from the bearings & cones.

    The numbers for the Holden are LM 67048 & LM 67010. This is for the large or inner bearing set.

    The numbers for the Ford are LM 12710 & LM 12749. This is for the small or outer bearing set.

    According to further research there was a time with Alko when there was no real industry standard so they made 'whatever' work

    Preparation is the key to a good outcome. I would rather do this now than on the Oodnadatta track in September.

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    Now if you had electric brakes you would maybe have "parallel" bearings which are 2 Ford inners ending in 49.!!!

    Alko are unbelievable.
    Regards Philip A

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    Correct again, Phil
    oh stop it your makin me blush...


    cheers phil

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    Quote Originally Posted by PhilipA View Post
    Now if you had electric brakes you would maybe have "parallel" bearings which are 2 Ford inners ending in 49.!!!

    Alko are unbelievable.
    Regards Philip A
    and my alko electric brakes ....


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    Well, how about that!!

    Well done sschmez, you have just thown a spanner in the works

    I do have electric brakes so this bearing problem needed further looking into. Luckily I have not purchased replacements yet.

    I have the same hub that sschmez has in the pics 254 x 54 EL

    The Ford outer bearing match with everything ATM so we may be safe with this set.

    Now I have a different bearing set for the inner bearing

    Time to check the bearing specs and compare

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    The parallels I gather are a heavier duty bearing set .
    My Campomatic has parallels which are both the big Ford one.
    My guess is that the stub axles fitted to the Campomatic independent suspension may only come in parallel.
    I cannot believe that over engineeing in a Campomatic. The thing only weighs about 500Kg and I have saved 54KG just by shaving the electric brake drums off and changing from Land Cruiser splits to Range Rover mags.
    Regards Philip A

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    Quote Originally Posted by PhilipA View Post
    The parallels I gather are a heavier duty bearing set .
    My Campomatic has parallels which are both the big Ford one.
    My guess is that the stub axles fitted to the Campomatic independent suspension may only come in parallel.
    I cannot believe that over engineeing in a Campomatic. The thing only weighs about 500Kg and I have saved 54KG just by shaving the electric brake drums off and changing from Land Cruiser splits to Range Rover mags.
    Regards Philip A
    it is a Phillip said, too increase the load cap of the axle/bearing combo they use the large bearings from the Ford and Holden. Common practice
    I think it increases the load carrying from 750 to 1100kg
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    Well I have found out that the inner bearing set LM 67048/10 is used on the 1.5 tonne axle. This would explain the different sizes of the bearings.

    It all depends on the specification of the van and what the customer ordered.

    Is this a logical conclusion and would it be safe to purchase the bearing sets as they are?

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