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    101 Winch Cable

    For the first time since I acquired my 101, I pulled out the cable on my Nokken winch to check its condition as the bit that was visible looked pretty shabby. The cable except for the first 3 feet is actually in excellant condition.

    Unfortunately the markers to tell you when the cable is down to 5 turns on the drum were not there and I pulled all the cable out and I am not sure how it goes back in. The winch section in the service book is not a lot of help in explaining how the cable goes back in.

    So here is my little drawing.


    The setup is for the cable at the front. I assume the cable goes over the top of pully 1, under pully 2 and around the inner groove on the capstan. Then around pully 3 and back around the outer groove on the capstan and then to the bottom of the cable drum.

    Is this correct? If not can someone point me in the right direction.

    Also, how does the cable connect to the cable drum - I have found the little hole but it is at the top and I cannot turn the drum by hand and with power on it does not turn - I guess because there is no cable in the system. Is there a special connection on the end of the cable that goes into the hole in the cable drum. My cable end was just taped up.

    I was also amazed at how much cable there is - must be 50 or 60m.

    Any help would be appreciated.

    Thanks

    Garry
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    Hello Garry

    I've replied to your duplicate question on the LRFCC&R forum.

    101 club :: View topic - Nokken Winch Cable

    James

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    when it come time to rethread it dont rethread it....

    find some heat shrink and shrink it onto the end of about 10ft of 5mm rope. the other end you tie onto the winch cable with a timer hitch about a foot from the end then a half hitch about half an inch from the end which you then tape or heatshrink so that theres no protrusion to foul on anything.

    once youve got that done you thread the 5mm rope through lace it out as required and then pull it through. if need be you can wind the 5mm onto the drum and then manually back the drum with the cable slack to remove the 5mm rope.

    Just make sure that while your lacing it the 5mm doesnt overlap itself as it will then foul on the winch rope and make a horrid mess.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Horace1664 View Post
    Hello Garry

    I've replied to your duplicate question on the LRFCC&R forum.

    101 club :: View topic - Nokken Winch Cable

    James
    Thanks James - have responded.

    I put it on the 101 forum because there are more 101 users are there and most of the likely respondents here are probably away for the long weekend and I want to have a look at it tomorrow.

    Cheers

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    Thanks Dave - good trick that I know of but didn't even think about - once I worked out the correct path for the cable and how to connect it to the drum (I might have ripped a bit off the cable end) and get the drum turned so I can get at the cable connection point, I was going to just try and thread the cable through - you advice will no doubt same me a lot of mucking around.

    Cheers

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    I have managed to rotate the drum and there are three holes - the centre one has a grub screw that obviously screws down on the cable to hold it in place. The cable feeds in one of the other holes.

    Still not totally sure on the route of the cable but my drawing is not correct.

    The UJs on the winch drive shaft are all shot - can the shaft be removed without pulling any of the winch apart?

    Thanks

    Garry
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    On my 101 and Misguided two both vehicles have winch UJs which flop about on the pto shaft from the transfercase.........could be normal.
    I am trying to get some vid of my winch working from this Easter break.
    I will post here soon.
    My 101 is parked in the front yard......i can look to see how the cable goes.
    Did you get it sorted ?

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    My 101 pulling out a Tojo from the rear.
    Note the speed.....no electric winch can get near a PTO one for grunt.
    More to come.
    [ame=http://s131.photobucket.com/albums/p299/101Ron/?action=view&current=CLIP0068.flv][/ame]

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    Still not sure how the cable goes.

    Dodge - you just did this - any pointers.

    Garry
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    1977 FC 101
    1976 Jaguar XJ12C
    1973 Haflinger AP700
    1971 Jaguar V12 E-Type Series 3 Roadster
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    Just looked at mne.
    It is dark and raining.
    From what it can see it doesnt go the way you think it would......cable is crossed all over the place.
    I will have to do a detailed drawing.
    On the capstan the cable comes off to the storage drum on the outer most side of the vehicle.
    It feeds on from the inner most side from above(not shore from where and the cable apppaers crossed over at the idler pulley.)
    Check my photo bucket as I did detailed pics for dodge to help him with his winch.

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