Thread: HELP! Anyone raised a PUMA? Big TROUBLE!!!

Originally Posted by spudboy

Bugger - I seem to have been dudded out of 40mm......

Just measured my wheel arch to centre of hub (front), 520mm. It has an ARB bar, 9000 lbs winch with wire and all the extras. Springs are standard 130 Defender fronts. On the ARB springs it was considerably higher than this and I think that this is where the problem lies. Probably 20-25mm makes little difference, it would be interesting to know the measurements of Povman's wheel arch to hub.

Allan

Latest update....
ARB are currently refitting OE suspension, which they already claim is still not going to fix the problem. Also once fitted they are going to video it as proof, then send the prop shaft off to an independent analyst to prove it isn't aligned or something like that, (lost concentration at this point with my head spinning out of control and the stress levels taking over!) :
If it comes back ok, they will admit they caused the problem once and for all and pay all expenses to get it rectified. (Good part of story!)
2: If it comes back with the results that prove it was this way from factory, I get sent on my merry way back to LR AGAIN to let them accept that the problem is theirs, (which is not going to be easy!)
All of this over my head and I still don't have an answer as to what the exact problem is and I've still got to fit the roofrack which arrives tomorrow and the uhf, all planned to fit this weekend but theres no way I'll get my car back by then, I guarantee it!
Anyone got any stress remedies????
Unhappy Povman AGAIN...

For what it is worth.... the NSW RTA measurements for suspension heights of the Defender Wagon are on page three of the attached file.

Note that the measurement for suspension is from the center of the hub vertically to the wheel arch (cut out in the mudguard) not the flare.

Anyone have the part #'s for the TDCi uni's, slip joint and front prop to compare to the TD5 wide angle one ?

The later model TD5's went to the wide angle uni at the t/case end to prevent binding issues that the Tdi's didn't have.

Hmm, remember when the TDCi came out there were a spate of front props hitting (and some holing) the engine sump.
You'd expect this on an aftermarket conversion with development done on the run, not a factory version......

Originally Posted by rick130

The later model TD5's went to the wide angle uni at the t/case end to prevent binding issues that the Tdi's didn't have.

I am pretty sure all TD5's have the larger joint at the TC end.

Originally Posted by Drover

Hey Guys,

How can one PUMA have these problems and other ones don't ? They all use the same parts - Diff's - prop shafts - Transfer .

There is a post on this thread from another member talking of his PUMA with 50mm lift with king springs now with 75,000k's - no problems.

Not an expert by any stretch here but it doesn't add up !!!

PovMan – hope it all works out for you.

It aint funny here, i got a lift a long time ago now of 2.5" and got front vibration in my Td5. Got a DC shaft. I know of other people who had the same and they didnt. What the????

i think it really is the luck of the draw........... hope you have yours soughted soon povman..

geck

Originally Posted by geckos

It aint funny here, i got a lift a long time ago now of 2.5" and got front vibration in my Td5. Got a DC shaft. I know of other people who had the same and they didnt. What the????

i think it really is the luck of the draw........... hope you have yours soughted soon povman..

geck

Looking at panel tolerances, none of us should be surprised at driveline and general engineering tolerances being 'generous' on a Defender

Ha Pov man did you have castor corrected bushes fitted, I noticed that allen had these fitted, this is not needed for a 2 inch lift in these vehicles and correcting castor in a constant 4x4 vehicle shouldn't be done this way ( my opinion) as it rotates the diff housing increasing the prop shaft drive angle, the best way is it to get slotted swivel housings, as this leaves the drive angle and only affects the castor in which needs changing.

If you had these fitted remove them.

Gecko, had a 3inch lift fitted, he has 6 degree corrected radius arms and had the stock shaft, this caused vibs, he had a DC shaft made up and all fixed.

My county was running about 3 inch lift, 125mm to the bump stop on the front axle, the countys run wide angle uni joints this is what Psimpson7 was talking about.

Lowranger, I think he could be on to it here, my mates 130 puma had a loose rear diff pinion flange which relates to bearing preload, the mechanics at Land rover spares in Mackay said he had seen it before.

People need to get out more and use there cars if they can sit there and say they don't need lifting, get off the black top guys and use it the way they where ment to be, the Army 110 is higher than standard 110's for a reason.

I would not fit arb shocks as they do not offer any extra wheel travel, total waste of money in my opinion. Allen has a good idea with his shocks or the other option to look at is tjm long travel shocks, arb should be ashamed with there shocks. the arb 2 inch coil works out roughly to be the same as a 130 front by the way.

hope this helps