Thread: Flex, or lack of it

Ok, so i finally got around to posting some photos up of my rig and its suspension. It doesnt feel as stable offroad as it used to before the springs/shocks were fitted. Much more willing to cock a leg up it seems like. Anyway heres the pics
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fixed links to nayto's photos

it honestly looks like your running a standard setup..in fact I think my puma which is running a standard setup flex better then that.

stiffer springs don't always give you good flex....but if you have standard bilstiens on then your shock is going to be the limiter anyway assuming you haven't tied your springs in

The part number you have given for the shocks..are you sure that is the correct number I punched it in to Google and came up with nothing..I also tried searching on a U.S website that deals with bilstiens and again came up with nothing

Originally Posted by dullbird

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The part number you have given for the shocks..are you sure that is the correct number I punched it in to Google and came up with nothing..I also tried searching on a U.S website that deals with bilstiens and again came up with nothing

B46 0243 are fronts, rears for a 110 are either B46 0253 or B46 0254 (130 rears are BE5 6529) That BE5-6220 (one too many numbers on the OP's number) doesn't match up with anything ?

I think he has given Manufacturers number rather then Part number...maybe why I can't find anything

The fronts he has are HD I have worked that much out

Nayto, you made a comment about how the car feels less stable after the lift, what brand of coils did you buy, one of the biggest mistakes when people lift is there choice of coil. a lot of manufactures use a heavy spring rate to give the lift and this is no good for flex. In the rear what you need is a coil with the standard rate but just taller, this gives you a great ride better flex and the lift. A new rear set will be cheap enough if you want to change out, on contrast the front look like it is working well.

Originally Posted by dullbird

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stiffer springs don't always give you good flex....but if you have standard bilstiens on then your shock is going to be the limiter anyway assuming you haven't tied your springs in

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Pretty much nailed it, most aftermarket 'lifted' springs just achieve a lift by being much higher than stock spring rate, their free lengths are often the same or sometimes shorter than stock, and with the high rates they often won't go fully compressed into the bump stops on bump.
By only using standard length dampers and short, high rate springs you also compromise droop travel, the car now sits 40-50mm higher but has reduced droop travel by the same amount.

Stock fit Billie dimensions for B46 0243 and B46 0253. (base of pin to base of pin, centre of eye to base of pin)

Fronts 548mm open, 330.5mm closed
Rears 553.5mm open, 346.5mm closed (Bilsteins measurements)

Standard L/R Woodhead/Monroe dampers

Front 550mm/328mm
Rear 550mm/350mm (my measurements)

Cheers for fixing up my photos mate. I agree dullbird, i think that it did flex better before i put the suspension in, it definately wasnt as keen to lift a wheel anyways. The springs are EFS, HD ones. Apparently they dont make any aftermarket springs with a slight lift, without going to a heavy duty coil. The ones i went with are the lighter rating of the 2 options.
The Bilstein part numbers i quoted were whats written on the shocks, the reciept that came with them says B46-0243 front B46-0255 rear. Whether or not i got them ones i dont know.Old mate from Rovacraft ensured me they were long enough for 2" lift.
Basically im not happy with it offroad atm, onroad its great though. I think maybe im going to have to at least swap the rear coils with something lighter