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Thread: Just "Defender" or bad quality?

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    Dealer has confirmed receipt of my emails and the truck is booked in for the 20th...first available loan car!

    They want it for a week so they can "go right over it". I hope the apprentice is on holidays and they have the gun on it.

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    I would love to have him in Brisbane! What you say is exactly right..we just want an honest answer so we know where the goal posts are. LRA want to keep it extremely vague so there can be no finite answer. As I have said before, I have 24mm movement at the hand brake drum when in neutral. If LRA said 32mm is acceptable, we will monitor it at each service and fix it if reaches 32mm, fine. This..."its a Defender" ain't cutting the mustard anymore.

    Imagine if the same thing was happening to the brakes and they didn't work for the first 24 m and then cut in..do you reckon we would be accepting....."That's OK, it's normal Defender"

    Based on the definition you have been given, mine is unacceptable.
    Hey Nugge t, your rear movement getting worse? Thought yours was better than mine (24mm) previously?

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    Doesn't appear to have gotten any worse but hasn't been driven much of late..the 32mm was a fictional LR Quality Control number....very fictional as they don't appear to have one!

    On a positive note, despite all of the rain, I don't have any leaks as many others seem to. If it doesn't leak with ths weather we are having I should be OK unles they develope over time, but for now...touch wood.

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    The 110 is back at the dealer. They are going to check the driveline slop again with a specific instruction to check it against LR specifications, not "other Defenders on the lot".

    Hopefully getting it back Thursday and even more hopefully everything is done.

    Whilst it has been in, they supplied me a Freelander..... I will appologise to any Freelander drivers first up.....

    Anyway, my wife asked me to go to the shops which I duly did like any good husband and on the list was a 6 pack of West Coast...I ahve never been more embarrased in my life walking back to the Freelander with a 6 pack of West Coast under my arm

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    Quote Originally Posted by nugge t View Post
    Anyway, my wife asked me to go to the shops which I duly did like any good husband and on the list was a 6 pack of West Coast...I ahve never been more embarrased in my life walking back to the Freelander with a 6 pack of West Coast under my arm
    didn't know you could still buy west coast coolers.......

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    Quote Originally Posted by nugge t View Post

    Anyway, my wife asked me to go to the shops which I duly did like any good husband and on the list was a 6 pack of West Coast...I ahve never been more embarrased in my life walking back to the Freelander with a 6 pack of West Coast under my arm
    ha ha suck it up Nugget, I had to walk into a construction site after all the lads had seen my 130. Does you Freelander have the dealers colours plastered all over it?
    Jason

    2010 130 TDCi

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    No it doesn't...if it did peopel would know it was either a loan or I was employed by the company and had to drive it..roll on Thursday when the 110 "should be ready". Guess it will be Friday!

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    Got the 110 back yesterday. Heater controls and dash that they buggered are fixed.

    Tub corrosion has been cleaned up and "photos taken for future reference". That hardly fills me with warm and fuzzy feelings that they are confident they have fixed it.

    The noise when starting and turning off can be heard, felt as a vibration through the chassis and anything else they hang onto but sorry, we have no idea what it causing it. We should get a clearer indication when it breaks or fails seems to be the best they can come up with.

    The big one and surprise, surprise.... Driveline backlash all in LR specs. Well actually they report that there is no spec for combined driveline slop. There is a turning torque for the front and rear diffs and mine is correct. Backlash measured at the crown wheel is the only spec provided by LR and again, mine is fine. So individually, all components are within the spec provided, but combined they suck.

    Looks like I can head off in to the wild blue yonder with total confidence in the driveline and hopefully, even more confidence in LR Assist!

    Resolved to LR's satisfaction would be the most accurate description of the state of play.

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    Having been subjected to the LR/dealer bs machine, I feel for you. Do you get the feeling they aren't your mates? Good luck with your defer.

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    Having been retrenched recently and finding myself bored, I went and spent the day at my local indie's workshop.

    I am trully appalled at the quality of the workmanship in the Puma - fuel lines not tied down, ABS cables dangling all over the place, no protective cover over cables, etc

    So I spent the day tying up loose pipes & cables under my landy, and just making sure things will not be ripped out accidentally.

    The fuel cooler is a major weakness though, all it will take is a branch and your Puma will be kaput in the bush. I am fitting a fuel cooler guard asap!

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