DIY oil change on a PUMA - Don't use just any old oil

**spudboy** · 18th January 2011, 04:09 PM

I got started on this when I took my PUMA in to Solitare for some final warranty work (New Vacuum Pump) and thought I'd get them to do a first oil change at the same time.

They quoted me $730, being mainly made up of 6.3 litres of oil for $172.90 and Labour of $435.60, the rest for the filters etc.

I thought this reminded me of why I try and service my vehicles myself and just bought the filters (oil filter: $20, fuel filter: $57 and feeling like they were probably still doing a nice profit on them).

I rang Castrol to find out what oil to use and got on to a good tech who helped a lot. He said you MUST use the Land Rover specified oil, and they can tell if you haven't (if it comes to a warranty claim). It has special ash properties or something technical. He stressed a number of times NOT to use something you just get from SupaCheap or Repco, they will not do the job.

The proper oil is Castrol SLX Professional OE 5W-30 (Code 119563). The only other Castrol alternative that is acceptable is Edge Sport 0W-40 (code 119779 - apparently not the same as the standard Edge Sport you might get from Repco etc.)

So - I have just ordered a 20L drum of SLX from their SA distributor for $232 + GST. So, buy it yourself for $12.76/L or get Solitaire to supply it for $27.44/L - Hmmmmm

Anyway, any other PUMA owners thinking of just chucking in something you've got lying around your shed (like I was before I rang Castrol) please take note

Cheers
David

**Loubrey** · 18th January 2011, 04:51 PM

Cheers Spudboy!

Just happened to be on the exact same topic today and after a lot of web searching found that exact same Castrol Specification.

I used to have a Golf GTD (Mark 5 UK Specification) as a company car and it used very similar oil and it's complete warranty void if you put anything different in.

Puma owners have a look at this link to Castrol Australia for all the "correct" oils.

Castrol Trade Australia - NetLube

http://www.datateck.com.au/lube/castr_au/default.asp

**rick130** · 18th January 2011, 05:19 PM

AFAIK the 'proper' oil is one complying with Ford spec WSS-M2C913-B.

There are a few that meet this spec, here's a reply I gave to someone the other day asking about the gearbox and engine oil specs.

" yep, it uses Castrol BOT130, a special for Ford/Getrag that is a full synthetic 75w-90 GL-4. (VII 211, 15.1cSt @ 100*C, I can email the data sheet if you want it, have it on file, just can't recall ATM where I got it from )
It's a dealer only oil unfortunately.

Depending on the synchro material, any decent syn 75W-90 might be OK, but I have no experience with that box at all so don't know for sure.

I'm guessing BOT130 is only available from Land Rover, Ford and Castrol in a 20l drum.

The Ford engine was supposed to use an oil that met a certain Ford spec for warranty purposes and there were a few oils that met the spec.
IIRC it was a 5W-30 and had to meet the Ford WSS-M2C913-B spec

Oils that meet this are Mobil Super FE Special 5W-30, Shell HELIX HX7 AF 5W-30, Havoline Energy 5W-30, etc. but the crazy part appears to be that most are dealer/trade sale only (eg. 44 gallon drum)
I have no idea what's so special/different about the Ford spec.

FWIW Castrol actually recommend Edge Sport 0W-40 even though it doesn't carry a Ford certification. <edit> to my knowledge</edit>

At the end of the day 10 weeks isn't that long so if the car is serviced before leaving ask the dealer for a couple of litres of engine oil for top off and g/box oil out of their bulk drum to take with you."

**isuzurover** · 18th January 2011, 05:23 PM

Originally Posted by spudboy

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The proper oil is Castrol SLX Professional OE 5W-30 (Code 119563).

The only other Castrol alternative that is acceptable is Edge Sport 0W-40 (code 119779 - apparently not the same as the standard Edge Sport you might get from Repco etc.)

So - I have just ordered a 20L drum...

It is not clear which of these two oils you ordered???

**stig0000** · 18th January 2011, 05:26 PM

thats cheap for filters i think???

and yes OE gose into all new disel landrovers now, its for the dpf filters, (yes i do no that defenders dont have one)

**sashadidi** · 18th January 2011, 05:38 PM

Good Discussion here:
Defender2 - View topic - Puma oil spec?

**spudboy** · 18th January 2011, 05:38 PM

Originally Posted by isuzurover

It is not clear which of these two oils you ordered???

I ordered the SLX Professional OE.

The Edge Sport was more expensive ($307 + GST) but I gather you can use it in more vehicles than the SLX.

**spudboy** · 18th January 2011, 05:40 PM

Originally Posted by stig0000

thats cheap for filters i think???

Ha - they started out at $25 and $70, so I had to haggle them down a bit.

They probably buy them for $10 and $20 each or something.... who knows.

**Loubrey** · 18th January 2011, 06:11 PM

A reliable source at Lode Lane, Solihul tells me Australian and South African manufacture's oil specification is much higher than required in the UK due to temperatures and conditions (distances, dust etc).

The Defender 2 forum guys recon semi synthetic Magnatec is the UK specification - Rick130 you agree?

**Naks** · 18th January 2011, 07:05 PM

In SA the oil used by the stealers is Castrol Magnatec A1 Professional 5w30 ACEA A5/B5. It conform to the Ford specs for the Defender: WSS M2C-913-B.

Btw, this Ford spec has been superseded by the specs WSS M2C-913-C.

This link gives you some of the oils that conform to the specs: Ford Engine Oil - WSS-M2C 913-C

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