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    EGR Valve Noise

    When I turn my 08 Puma (73,000km) off, a loud (rattle / scraping) noise is emitted from the engine bay. It is rather annoying / embarrasing and sounds like there is something wrong with the engine. However, I have read some older threads on this and I am lead to believe that the noise is 'normal' (although mine is probably louder than usual) and it is the EGR valves self cleaning.

    Older posts also suggested that LR Technicians were instructed these noises were 'within limits' and that part replacement was not necessary at the time (a few years ago now). I am wondering if the very noisy units (like mine) are now normally replaced with quieter (or near silent) units and does anyone know how much the replacement is likely to cost?

    Everything seems to be running okay, however it's just rally annoying to hear the loud rattle every time the engine is shut off.

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    Get a BAS re-map with EGR 100% close. (no more noise - no self clean cycle)

    More power and torque - much smoother

    Better fuel economy.

    Can't go wrong

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    How much for the remap? Do you have to send your ECU away (to the UK?)?

    Thanks
    David

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    Hey Spudboy,

    Bell Auto Services will send you a programming device that plugs into you ECU.

    You then download you standard map and email to Pete Bell in the UK, along with details of any modification to your vehicle and what you use it for.

    Pete will make the necessary adjustments and email you back a tuned map.

    Download the tuned map into the box, plug the box back into your ECU and upload your tuned programme onto the ECU.

    Done

    You keep the box (programming device) allowing you to choose between std map and your tuned map. You would use the std map when going to the stealer for service.

    Cost is about 500GBP including freight to your door. Bargin!!!

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    Can I get a local WA Landrover Technician (i.e Southern, Barbagallo etc...) to do the BAS re-map with EGR 100% close (no more noise - no self clean cycle) instead of DIY via UK and cost less than 500GBP?

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    Quote Originally Posted by kailanayacht
    Can I get a local WA Landrover Technician (i.e Southern, Barbagallo etc...) to do the BAS re-map with EGR 100% close (no more noise - no self clean cycle) instead of DIY via UK and cost less than 500GBP?
    Nope...

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    Quote Originally Posted by kailanayacht View Post
    Can I get a local WA Landrover Technician (i.e Southern, Barbagallo etc...) to do the BAS re-map with EGR 100% close (no more noise - no self clean cycle) instead of DIY via UK and cost less than 500GBP?
    You can if they have a BBS MSV2 as you can buy the BAS remaps direct from BBS and install them with the MSV2's FFL.

    Quote Originally Posted by kailanayacht
    When I turn my 08 Puma (73,000km) off, a loud (rattle / scraping) noise is emitted from the engine bay. It is rather annoying / embarrasing and sounds like there is something wrong with the engine. However, I have read some older threads on this and I am lead to believe that the noise is 'normal' (although mine is probably louder than usual) and it is the EGR valves self cleaning.
    To find out if it is the EGR valve and not something loose making the noise on shutdown is to unplug the EGR valve electrical plug and see if the noise disappears when you shutdown. This will throw up a DTC and illuminate the MIL until you plug it back in. But will confirm if the fault is the EGR self clean cycle. The EGR will cost around £110 from a dealer here in the UK, so not sure what the price would be in OZ. It is an easy job to replace the valve and I personaly would remove the EGR first and give it a good clean with brake cleaner to remove any carbon build up and hopefully this would stop the noise and save you the purchase of a new one.

    Personally I have the Alive tuning ATRIC remap which does the same as BAS in power,torque and the EGR valve closed 100% of the time and no EGR self clean cycle. If you can do it, the best thing to do is to get that valve closed as it just cokes up your inlet manifold increases fuel consumption and limits the available power by recycling dirty exhaust fumes, there are a couple of company's that do a Puma EGR blanking kit but as yet none supply a means of cancelling the MIL light as this needs to be done in the fuel file of the Duratorq EMS. If the MIL doesn't bother you simply unplug the EGR electrical plug and this will do the same job as a blank or remap in keeping the valve closed.


    HTH Brian.

    If you look to the left of the EGR valve (No3) you will see the electrical connection.





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    A mate of mine has a Puma and it had the EGR playing up like that and was replaced under warranty. I will let him know about the mod that can be done though, sounds great.

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    Here are some live data pics showing the standard fuel file with the EGR operating as normal:





    And again but this time with the Alive No EGR Remap:



    You will notice that the pedal position sensor indicates full throttle which if the EGR was connected, the EGR position would be showing 100% instead of zero.



    The remaped file with the EGR closed function increases power/torque and gives a freer revving throttle input as the engine is only getting cold air and fuel instead of having the recycled exhaust gases. There is also a fuel saving though I haven't noticed it as I boot the defender everywhere now as the extra power is addictive

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tombie View Post
    Nope...
    Why not appoint an Aussie distributor?

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