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  1. 21st October 2011, 12:15 AM #1
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    Current Defender to Live until 2017..

    Current Defender to live on to 2017 - Autocar.co.uk
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  2. 21st October 2011, 06:06 AM #2
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    So there will be a Defender and a Defender Classic in production at the same time, like what happened with the Range Rover in 1993/4. Features like air suspension might be shared with the classic.
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  3. 21st October 2011, 08:24 AM #3
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    Just put a tdv6 in a 110 and be done with it.
    Hercules: 1986 110 Isuzu 3.9 (4BD1-T)
    Brutus: 1969 109 ExMil 2a FFT (loved and lost)
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  4. 21st October 2011, 09:01 AM #4
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    Yeah !
    It's not broken. It's "Carbon Neutral".


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  5. 21st October 2011, 08:34 PM #5
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    Put a TDV6 in a 90 and watch it fly

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  6. 21st October 2011, 09:13 PM #6
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    Quote Originally Posted by flagg View Post
    Just put a tdv6 in a 110 and be done with it.
    .... that, and front and side curtain airbags.

    LR shoulda followed Jeep's lead with the Wrangler when it went from TJ to JK - the change seemed evolutionary but the sales actually increased!

    As it stands, I can see a situation where the current deefa will compete with the new one - and I somehow think that the car that has been around for generations will outlast the bubble car concept ...
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  7. 21st October 2011, 10:17 PM #7
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    Quote Originally Posted by islu51 View Post
    Current Defender to live on to 2017
    I assume it will have a 1.2L Duratorq engine? The way engine size is going in the Defender it may have none at all.
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  8. 22nd October 2011, 06:47 AM #8
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    Quote Originally Posted by eksjay View Post
    .... that, and front and side curtain airbags.

    [snip]
    Which they can't in the current one, part of the reasoning why the wanted to can it.

    I agree with what you said re the JK.
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  9. 22nd October 2011, 10:44 AM #9
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    IMHO a modern Land Rover/Jaguar/Tarta desinged and manufactured straight 4 cyl diesel of similar displacement (or greater as an option) is a better choice than the 2.7/3litre TDV6.

    The benefits as I see it include:

    • fewer parts required greatly reduces cost
    • fewer moving parts reduces friction leading to better fuel economy
    • straight engine is stiffer than V for lower weight
    • crank is better supported in straight engine
    • turbo and alternator can be mounted higher, giving better protection from water and mud
    • don't have to buy engines from Ford


    Disadvantages include:
    • cost of development will take time to amortise
    • not as smooth running (but then we are talking about a Defender)
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  10. 22nd October 2011, 11:19 AM #10
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bush65 View Post
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    Disadvantages include:
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    • not as smooth running (but then we are talking about a Defender)
    A balance shaft fixes a lot of that but you start to lose the lower friction benefits of the four.

    Wasn't their a tech tie in being mooted between Fiat and Tata for small diesels ?
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