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    UK Diesel vs Australian Diesel

    I have recently imported a 2005 Defender 90 Td5 XS into Australia. I am still only on my first tank of diesel after the vehicle sat in the container for 3 months.

    When acclerating at high rpm more i get more then normal puffs of smoke. Normal driving it does not do it. Just when i give it a thrashing i see a nice long smoke trail. It's like it's slightly overfueling or something.

    I can't remember it behaving like this a few months ago while in the UK. Today i filled up with BP Ultimate Diesel which might be closer to the UK spec diesel. I will see how this goes.

    The vehicle is "Chipped" by ADM Ltd Northants (Alastair Milne) It was done in 2008 and has been great. Could a UK chipped vehicle act differently on Australian Fuel? Or is Australian Diesel poorer quality and this is normal?

    This could be totally normal and i should take no notice and just move on perhaps.... Also fuel consumption is exactly the same as it was in the UK.

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    The diesel fuel standards are basically identical in AU and UK.

    Australia: max. 10ppm sulphur, Cetane rating 46, max. 5% Bio/FAME
    Diesel Fuel Quality Standard

    BS EN590: 10ppm sulphur, Cetane rating 46, max. 7% Bio/FAME
    [ame="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EN_590"]EN 590 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia[/ame]

    Any issues you are experiencing are likely to be due to the lay-up period, rather than fuel.

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    If anything I would suspect hot aussie summer air would be less dense so you'd be on the verge of overfuelling. See how it goes with new fuel, lower air temperatures.

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    Quote Originally Posted by isuzurover View Post
    The diesel fuel standards are basically identical in AU and UK.
    Ben

    I'm not challenging your data, but isn't there some differences in some of the fillers, waxes or oils used in diesel fuels dependant upon ambient temperatures in the region of sale?

    Many people have reported problems with waxes or similar precipitating in diesel fuel purchased in Queensland when they return to areas like Victoria or the NSW southern alpine regions during winter.

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    Maybe you couldn't see the smoke through the gloom in the UK

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    Then again you could LPG fumigate the diesel and then black smoke would be a thing of the past. (More Km/$ and a little better performance too)

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    Quote Originally Posted by djam1 View Post
    Maybe you couldn't see the smoke through the gloom in the UK
    You might be right. or it was too dark!

    It's due for service in a while. I will be chaging to Penrite HPR5 Diesel which is a little thicker. I will also fit a new airfilter. I will see how it goes after this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lotz-A-Landies View Post
    Ben

    I'm not challenging your data, but isn't there some differences in some of the fillers, waxes or oils used in diesel fuels dependant upon ambient temperatures in the region of sale?

    Many people have reported problems with waxes or similar precipitating in diesel fuel purchased in Queensland when they return to areas like Victoria or the NSW southern alpine regions during winter.

    Diana
    Fuel formulation of LPG and Petrol is typically adjusted between summer and winter.

    Formulation of diesel is changed in cold areas - as you suggest - to prevent "waxing" of the filters. However, the fuel quality standards still apply - i.e. both summer and winter diesel must comply with the fuel standard. Summer diesel in the UK and summer diesel in AU could be expected to be effectively the same, excluding the extra 2% fame permitted in the UK.

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    Could it be that the Upto 7% bio in UK diesel actually makes it cleaner?

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    i would dare to suggest that you may still have some uk diesel in the tank that has gone stale to which you have added a top up of aussie fuel, i think you give it a look after a couple of tankfuls go through it, it will probably clean up.

    but on the subject of aussie diesel,
    i look after a bunch of diesel powered aircraft, which are allowed to run european diesel but not allowed to run aussie diesel, in aust they are required to operate on jet a1 turbine aircraft fuel, so maybe our fuel isn't as good as the euro stuff.
    Safe Travels
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