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    Quote Originally Posted by Defender Mike View Post
    ...I would dearly like to find out if the temp sender is connected to the computer and put it into a reduced power (limp) mode or was it starting to nip up.
    If the gauge doesn't fluctuate as you drive up hills then it will be connected to the ecm, but could still be even if the gauge fluctuates.

    I suspect that if a modern engine suddenly looses power due to overheating but doesn't sieze within a few seconds then its in limp-home mode. If its on the point of siezing its also likely to not idle, stalling between gear changes.
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    was idling ok

    Quote Originally Posted by Graeme View Post
    If the gauge doesn't fluctuate as you drive up hills then it will be connected to the ecm, but could still be even if the gauge fluctuates.

    I suspect that if a modern engine suddenly looses power due to overheating but doesn't sieze within a few seconds then its in limp-home mode. If its on the point of siezing its also likely to not idle, stalling between gear changes.
    She tells me it was idling ok ,no steam or hot smell. I am dropping in on the dealer on Monday morning and see if they know. I see they have fitted a foam spreader to keep the hoses apart but it must have been an afterthought as they have cut it and slipped it over rather than take the clamp off and slide it along the hose.It wont stay there long like that so will get it done properly at the service.Mike

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    Do Not Ignore This

    Thanks to JayBoRover for the prompt to check the hose clamps. This morning, on the 110, I found the same 'fur' on the hose clamp on the oil cooler hose. This had chaffed up on the underside of the top water pump hose and left two small cuts which hadn't, as yet, penetrated the internal hose braid. I tried to reposition the clamp, but unfortunately don't have the right tool for the job....made a note for a Fathers Day gift I've temporarily insulated the hose and clamp with high density foam and secured in place using zip tie technology Off to the dealers on Monday to have the damaged hose replaced and the hose clamp correctly fitted. I'd thoroughly recommend that others check as well. Good to hear that Defender Mike has the 90 up and running again and wish him many happy Landrover miles ahead.

    Cheers, DD.

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    No worries DD. Glad you found it in time.

    I didn't realise I'd posted my follow-up in another thread. Anyway, copied here:
    I just rotated my hose clamp as it had evidence of rubbing on the other hose (looked like black fluff on the end of the clamp). Inspected the "other" hose using a telescopic mirror tool and found a nice little indentation where the hose has been rubbed by the clamp. I'll ring nice Mr Land Rover on Monday and see if they can replace it. Surely they'll be happy to fix one without all the drama of rescuing it roadside first and risking the engine.

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    Thanks guys,
    Just checked hoses on my 2012 Shorty 90...same rubbing and indentations on two hoses caused by malaligned hose clamps. Just coming up to 3000km service so thanks for saving me dramas out bush.
    Cheers
    Mike in Townsville

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    no permanent damage

    Just drove 6000ks in 4 days towing a trailer with a series 1 on the back for half of it without and dramas., In fact i am so impressed with the power of the 90 on hills its amazing. We passed road trans uphill towing the combination. It seemed like the computer just adjusted to the extra load and compensated. We were getting around 17 litres to 100 ks with the load and into a 30 knot headwind it dropped to around 20. We could keep up with traffic in Adelaide and Perth without a problem. So there appears to be no damage from the hose incident and no diff problems or anything else. IT has ben severly tested and come through 100.

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    I'd be recording all the details relating to the issue, sending a copy to LRAu for their records (both reg post and email) after having an independent check the basics like compression, maybe an oil/water test for Water in Oil, Oil/Gases in Water. So IF it goes belly up you've done all you could to keep a chain off evidence and also advised them of it's status, having registered mail/email receipts of communication avoids their usual month long first step denial of knowledge.

    Then give it a couple of months, check again with same testes. Resend. It's a bit of cost but cheap insurance. I have a friend that has a workshop in a remote non dealer area and this is his method of recording data for this sort of incident for claiming back on the dealers for engines/g'boxs/diffs where they try to blame servicing/end user and he's never had a denial of claim.

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