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    Throttle not responsive. Normal or not?

    Hi guys,


    What I have noticed with the new MY12 Deefer is when I accelerate the throttle does not immediately respond, I have to press at least 1/4 of the way before it responds, is this normal?

    Taking off on a hill especially with a trailer is scary, as I ride the clutch because there is such a long pause before the revs come up. The Hilux I had as soon as you touched the accelerator it would respond. I'm a little confused as to wether this is normal and I just have to adapt my driving style.

    Also wondering if this might be linked with the high fuel consumption I have mentioned in another thread?

    Any thoughts would be greatly appreciated. Cheers.

    Babs.

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    Yep, it's completely normal Babs. Takes quite some getting used to. It's actually a "feature" that was designed in for the fly by wire throttle. I suspect only the engineer that designed it knows and/or appreciates it, but that's all part of Puma ownership. It doesn't have to make sense does it??
    So, no, it won't have anything to do with your poor fuel economy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JayBoRover View Post
    Yep, it's completely normal Babs. Takes quite some getting used to. It's actually a "feature" that was designed in for the fly by wire throttle. I suspect only the engineer that designed it knows and/or appreciates it, but that's all part of Puma ownership. It doesn't have to make sense does it??
    So, no, it won't have anything to do with your poor fuel economy.
    Thanks JayBo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Babs View Post
    Hi guys,


    What I have noticed with the new MY12 Deefer is when I accelerate the throttle does not immediately respond, I have to press at least 1/4 of the way before it responds, is this normal?

    Taking off on a hill especially with a trailer is scary, as I ride the clutch because there is such a long pause before the revs come up. The Hilux I had as soon as you touched the accelerator it would respond. I'm a little confused as to wether this is normal and I just have to adapt my driving style.

    Also wondering if this might be linked with the high fuel consumption I have mentioned in another thread?

    Any thoughts would be greatly appreciated. Cheers.

    Babs.
    you need to change your driving technique, try this

    put it in first ease up on the clutch and release the handbrake finish releasing the clutch and then apply the accellerator.

    you dont need to use the accelerator to move off in a diesel if its set up correctly and geared appropriately.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Blknight.aus View Post

    you need to change your driving technique, try this

    put it in first ease up on the clutch and release the handbrake finish releasing the clutch and then apply the accellerator.

    you dont need to use the accelerator to move off in a diesel if its set up correctly and geared appropriately.
    Blknight,

    Sounds good, but what if I'm towing and taking off on a hill, this scenario happened this week, scared the crap out me, had to ride the clutch and rev the puma out before I could fully release it, and that long pause before the power comes is enough to either stall or roll back.

    But if its normal your right I'll have to adjust my driving style, and use the handbrake. It all takes getting used to. I think I've gotten soft since last owning the Hilux it was the first auto I ever bought (well for me that is) and previously to that I had the last of the Patrol GU 4.2 TD and in my younger days had a couple of Troopies.

    Ahh it's good to get back to basics

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    Quote Originally Posted by Babs View Post
    Hi guys,


    What I have noticed with the new MY12 Deefer is when I accelerate the throttle does not immediately respond, I have to press at least 1/4 of the way before it responds, is this normal?

    Taking off on a hill especially with a trailer is scary, as I ride the clutch because there is such a long pause before the revs come up. The Hilux I had as soon as you touched the accelerator it would respond. I'm a little confused as to wether this is normal and I just have to adapt my driving style.

    Also wondering if this might be linked with the high fuel consumption I have mentioned in another thread?

    Any thoughts would be greatly appreciated. Cheers.

    Babs.
    Gotta' say that I've never noticed this in my Puma - maybe I just adapted without realising it?

    If mine wasn't 400km away ATM I'd take it for a quick spin to check...

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    I know its a different motor, but using the method Blknight.aus suggests I can pull away on an incline in my TD5 towing a 3.2 ton caravan ( and do). Give it a try, easy on the clutch and dont touch the throttle until it is right out.
    Dave

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    What I've noticed with my Deefer vs our Patrol and other Japanese diesels is that the throttle response is 'soft' so the engine doesn't surge with the bouncing of off road driving. ie. you don't have to rely on a hand throttle off road.

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    yes, as rick says, its a long travel throttle for a reason. I believe that its even in the TDi manual somewhere....

    hand throttles are only for stationary engines IMO

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    I have found that down-changes from 4th to 3rd work very smoothly with a little "blip" of the throttle. Getting the blip just right is a bit of a trick with that weird throttle response but can be mastered. When you master that, you start to realise it'd be great if the Landy engineers had made the throttle and brake pedals the same height so you can "heal n toe" for down-changes ... but they weren't engineering an F1 or WRC car. (They "engineered" the Defender???)

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