Traction control is NO substitute for a Locker. Ha!

you can doubt it as much as you like babs but I can assure you I have driven it unlocked in my disco (with a spotter) and while it wasn't an easy bimble up, on occasions there was stopping and the changing of my line I still made it....

Scouse isnt locked either and he has been up in his v8 rangie

my car is locked now and I simply walk it up.

everybody drives that track! so much that it actually became boring :)

Like I say it may of been chewed out more...so now will neeed to go up there again to have a look its been a while.

And Dave when I drive Newnes (zig zag) I generally do not drop my tyres below 24psi...I don't believe there is a need well I have never needed to personally.

Ian never dropped his pressures when he was there. went around on normal road pressure...I only drop for comfort

Ian generally doesnt drop because he is lazy:D

Sounds like we might see a big contingent of Landies up there soon, all testing themselves and their trucks on the same day and under similar track conditions. ;)

So who's organising the day out? :D

I got to bleed my brakes up AGAIN and hopefully things will improve and then I will be out and about in the disco minus the winch until I sort a bar

I'm sure Ian could have the brakes bled in half an hour or so and no need to worry about the winch - they're only for adventurers who go out by themselves and need to self recover. :wasntme:

So are you going to set a date Lou? Or maybe we could entice Ron to lead the trip - might need a few bottles of Red for that to happen though. ;)

I'm sure Babs would be a starter, provided date and time were suitable.

Sorry Rog I ont know my way around Zig Zag...I should I have been there enough.

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The reason why the drivers front side wheel wasnt tuning is because it was the one that had all the traction both your back wheels were turning because you were hung on the rear axle and neither of them had enough traction to give you any push. The one wheel that had traction was at its limit of drive, if you had had a locker up the front you probably would have torque steered over to the left and with the rear diff hung up wound up climbing the wall and teetering over.

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Cheers, these are the answers I'm searching. I'm thinking the traction should have turned that front drivers side wheel regardless of the rear wheels.
For the record at the time I had no idea the rear was hung up, it certainly did not feel like it.

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Sounds like we might see a big contingent of Landies up there soon, all testing themselves and their trucks on the same day and under similar track conditions. ;)

So who's organising the day out? :D

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It'd be a great day playing in the cross-ups around there.

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Sounds like we might see a big contingent of Landies up there soon, all testing themselves and their trucks on the same day and under similar track conditions. ;)

So who's organising the day out? :D

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Roger,

Feel free to organise it - just post the dates in the upcoming trips section. I'll be there as long as I'm not pre-booked.

Cheers,
John.

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you can doubt it as much as you like babs but I can assure you I have driven it unlocked in my disco (with a spotter) and while it wasn't an easy bimble up, on occasions there was stopping and the changing of my line I still made it....

Scouse isnt locked either and he has been up in his v8 rangie

my car is locked now and I simply walk it up.

everybody drives that track! so much that it actually became boring :)

Like I say it may of been chewed out more...so now will neeed to go up there again to have a look its been a while.

And Dave when I drive Newnes (zig zag) I generally do not drop my tyres below 24psi...I don't believe there is a need well I have never needed to personally.

Ian never dropped his pressures when he was there. went around on normal road pressure...I only drop for comfort

Ian generally doesnt drop because he is lazy:D

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Dullbird, I have a sense of doubt not that I don't believe, the question is what it took to get up there open diffed. You did say you walk up it now with lockers, easier on your drivetrain and the track.

Maybe I have been spoilt with my last two vehicles locked, I know it's a luxury but second to good tyres it should be the next mod on any 4wd's list, if you have working suspension don't wast money on lifts get a locker.

My Hilux I just stepped out of I had for 4years and prior to that I had a new GUiV Patrol last of the 4.2 locked up front, I had that for three years. So maybe I have just lost skill over the past 7 years, but I have never had to spin wheels and load the drivetrain in my travels.

Back in the Patrol days I was club secretary for a 4wd club and organised plenty of trips, so although I don't claim to be the best - actually far from it, I'm humble and open to all feedback good or bad, I do however have some idea on how different vehicles perform off road.

In the club we always had guys determined to get up stuff that the locked vehicles would go some would make it others would just make a mess, I just don't see the fun or point in hammering it like that, I'M sure yes sometimes there is exceptions.

A bit like the 4wd Action DVD's some of their driving is ridiculous they don't need to always hammer it like they do, but then that would be too boring and not make for exciting viewing I suppose.

Maybe I'm just becoming an old Fart, and I think the British from the Deefer is rubbing off on me and becoming pompous, anyway each to there own some people like the excitement of open diffs they see it as more challenging, that they make it where lockers go, just not my style, but I respect their choices.

Cheers :)

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I'm sure Ian could have the brakes bled in half an hour or so and no need to worry about the winch - they're only for adventurers who go out by themselves and need to self recover. :wasntme:

So are you going to set a date Lou? Or maybe we could entice Ron to lead the trip - might need a few bottles of Red for that to happen though. ;)

I'm sure Babs would be a starter, provided date and time were suitable.

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I would definitely love to get out there with you blokes, I know I would feel a lot more confident having similar vehicles around, there were places I did not drive as I had the children and we were a solo vehicle, I did ask those blokes if we could tag along but I shied away, I did not know their experience and would have felt like I was imposing on them. Nevertheless the kids had a ball so did I.

You guys organise it, I'll bring the red. It would be great to see other Deefers capabilities you can't see much in the drivers seat that's for sure. :) :) :)

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