Traction control is NO substitute for a Locker. Ha!

Babs, if you still got some spare money, do yourself a favour and fit some TrueTracs, All that chattering and backlash banging will dissapear, Truetracs and Traction control work with each other like a match made in heaven.

you'll hardly ever know the TC is engaging, much gentler on diffs axles and CV's too

yes when I walk it up now its almost on tick over with blips here and there....

I was never suggesting you lost your skill :) I was more suggesting that you probably just havent adapted it to this vehicle yet..every car is different.

and when I said you are a limitation not the car it wasnt meant to be taken personally...that is true for pretty much every driver out there that 4 wheel drives in my opinion, because many cars can go a lot further than what the drivers nerve will take them.

I never hammered my car.....touch wood I have never broken anything off road (although I have probably jinxed myself here) and I have only recently dented a panel but that was due to having the lockers in, as I now go places I wouldnt of typically put the car in without lockers:)

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Babs, if you still got some spare money, do yourself a favour and fit some TrueTracs, All that chattering and backlash banging will dissapear,

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Truetracs and Traction control work with each other like a match made in heaven.

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you'll hardly ever know the TC is engaging, much gentler on diffs axles and CV's too

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Thats not what our fellow member JustinC found with one of his patrons cars that had them fitted to a PUMA

Sounds like an idea some time after the 19th jan would be good.:D have to get past my youngest daughters wedding:) With deefers and older series having a spotter makes a big difference following trucks the same also helps with your line and learning what they can do and how they work. So how about the australia day week end?:)

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Thats not what our fellow member JustinC found with one of his patrons cars that had them fitted to a PUMA

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must be a Puma thing, :o

they are have transformed the Td5

also note unlike Ashcroft ATB's Truetrac's come in front & rear , if they are mixed up they do not work properley, which means they dont work properley in reverse (but either does TC)

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I'm totally with mark on this one...I too have driven that track a lot I have driven it in my 300tdi disco with no lockers on much smaller tyres than a fender and Ian also drove it with our standard puma with no dramas what so ever.

Yes the track could of been chewed out more but the track especially at the top is always chewed out and it is very very much about how you position your car and the amount of revs used.

Babs I would highly recommend you get. On some trips with Isuzu and low ranger and RVR110 I have off roaded a fair bit with these blokes and they are knowledgable guys.

You will learn a lot if you go out with similar vehicles on the outset, I'm Not saying don't go out with your mates in the Mazda etc...I'm saying bring them a long with a group of landys...

You will be surprised how much you can learn by simply following another puma that is set up much like your own and you will quickly learn the vehicles and your limitations....the car will go a lot of places, you will find that you are the limitation not to be rude :)The booger I'm sure has driven up that track in his series 2 with no lockers or anything. :)

The biggest thing though is I hope you had fun!!!!

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Dullbird, I concur. I would definitely pick up a lot off other Puma/Defenders, like I have replied in a previous, you can't see anything in the drivers seat. Hope we can all get together for a play, the suggestion has me excited :)

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Sounds like an idea some time after the 19th jan would be good.:D have to get past my youngest daughters wedding:) With deefers and older series having a spotter makes a big difference following trucks the same also helps with your line and learning what they can do and how they work. So how about the australia day week end?:)

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Yep I will check my roster when I get back to work and I will be up for a play hopefully

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Sounds like an idea some time after the 19th jan would be good.:D have to get past my youngest daughters wedding:) With deefers and older series having a spotter makes a big difference following trucks the same also helps with your line and learning what they can do and how they work. So how about the australia day week end?:)

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Sounds like you've set a date Geoff. ;)

I'll have to give my apologies though as I'll be a bit further west for that weekend (and the following week).

Go ahead though - I'll be interested to read the Trip Report and watch the vids. Have a good time.

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yes when I walk it up now its almost on tick over with blips here and there....

I was never suggesting you lost your skill :) I was more suggesting that you probably just havent adapted it to this vehicle yet..every car is different.

and when I said you are a limitation not the car it wasnt meant to be taken personally...that is true for pretty much every driver out there that 4 wheel drives in my opinion, because many cars can go a lot further than what the drivers nerve will take them.

I never hammered my car.....touch wood I have never broken anything off road (although I have probably jinxed myself here) and I have only recently dented a panel but that was due to having the lockers in, as I now go places I wouldnt of typically put the car in without lockers:)

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No no no, no offence taken I'm actually suggesting I might have lost my skill, I used my locker even in those situations where I know I probably did not need them, it just made my driving so simple. I'm realising I'm driving the Puma with the intention that the trac works the same as a locker (wrong). So just like my fuel economy problem (now solved) I will have to adjust driving style, and get to know my trac system better.

All Good.

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Originally Posted by ruxton

Babs, if you still got some spare money, do yourself a favour and fit some TrueTracs, All that chattering and backlash banging will dissapear, Truetracs and Traction control work with each other like a match made in heaven.

you'll hardly ever know the TC is engaging, much gentler on diffs axles and CV's too

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The seed is planted, but I'll give the trac a bit more of a go yet.

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