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    Quote Originally Posted by Jondavball View Post
    Thanks also to all from me for your suggestions below.

    Just did a 4wd course this weekend with Vic Widman and his team. We were very happy with how the Defender (2012 110) performed except for the fact that I was reminded constantly of a total lack of ability to be recovered from the front.

    I will now make getting that sorted as a priority.
    You should always have suitable recovery points, but as with insurance there is a 85% (wildly made up statistic!) chance you'll never need it. It is a Defender after all!

    I have used mine once as an achor for a tent guideline...

    Cheers,

    Lou

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    My 110 came new with 4 big steel eyelets bolted to the chassis. Aren't they for towing/recovery?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bavo View Post
    My 110 came new with 4 big steel eyelets bolted to the chassis. Aren't they for towing/recovery?
    No Definitely not - Those are tie down points for securing the vehicle during transport. They must not be used for recovery - they will bend and break and cause someone to die.

    Jate rings used to be the preferred method for adding rated recovery, they replaced those tie down points, with a D shackle like device.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bavo View Post
    My 110 came new with 4 big steel eyelets bolted to the chassis. Aren't they for towing/recovery?
    take one of them off, throw it as hard as you can at a window or an old car. . .

    multiply the damage by 10 and then imagine that hitting someone. . . do not use theese for recovery if you can avoid it, I have winched my car out using them once and after it the looked like they were about to snap off, they have since been removed so the temptation to use them is no longer there.

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    Bull bar was mentioned previously... I have an ARB bullbar at the front and towbar at the rear - does this effectively mean that I now have front and rear recovery points covered?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Samblers View Post
    Bull bar was mentioned previously... I have an ARB bullbar at the front and towbar at the rear - does this effectively mean that I now have front and rear recovery points covered?
    Only if the bullbar has built in recover points. Not all bullbars do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Samblers View Post
    Bull bar was mentioned previously... I have an ARB bullbar at the front and towbar at the rear - does this effectively mean that I now have front and rear recovery points covered?
    Quote Originally Posted by KarlB View Post
    Only if the bullbar has built in recover points. Not all bullbars do.
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    Im looking into getting some thing similar to what MC90 is talking about (refer to his photo) would standard 10mm steel be suitable or should it be hardend steel. should have a quote through today to have some Laser cut.

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    Similar recovery points to that installed by MC90 have been discussed before (see Puma recovery points, for example). The load will initially be taken by the small bolt at the bottom. If it fails then the others will then be subject to a very large load emanating from the 'leverage' that is a consequence of the load not being applied inline with the bolts. I would not touch them with a barge poll without advice from a mechanical engineer. The loads that can be applied in snatch recovery can be VERY large. It is also worth remembering that the chassis is made of mild steel. "Ratings" of recover attachments is somewhat meaningless. What is important is the rating of the "attached attachment".

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    Thanks KarlB, didn't think of that.

    If i start with a similar plate but replace the lower bolt with 2 high tensile bolts, would this help to spred the load.

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