Reply With QuoteI find it sad you prefer this thing which looks like a gay cross between a Skoda Yeti and a Mini.
but that doesnt make the other one good, of course.
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SubscriberReally? Hmmm.
Personally I hope the new one looks nothing like either....
I'd prefer it looked like, well, a Defender !
It's not broken. It's "Carbon Neutral".
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1993 Defender 110 ute "Doris"
1994 Range Rover Vogue LSE "The Luxo-Barge"
1994 Defender 130 HCPU "Rolly"
1996 Discovery 1
current
1995 Defender 130 HCPU and Suzuki GSX1400
Major Part of the Heart and Soul of AULRO
SubscriberI find it sad you prefer this thing which looks like a gay cross between a Skoda Yeti and a Mini.
but that doesnt make the other one good, of course.
It's not broken. It's "Carbon Neutral".
gone
1993 Defender 110 ute "Doris"
1994 Range Rover Vogue LSE "The Luxo-Barge"
1994 Defender 130 HCPU "Rolly"
1996 Discovery 1
current
1995 Defender 130 HCPU and Suzuki GSX1400
Major Part of the Heart and Soul of AULRO
SubscriberOK so I dug up these various photoshop efforts and interested in people's thoughts...
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Personally I think the main problem with the DC100 (one of many, but the main one..) - is the dodgy curved back front end. It's horrible, but probably the result of stupid Euro pedestrian collision specs. The red tape H&S brigade over there seem to think you shoudl be able to design a car that can run into a pedestrian at autobahn speeds and they'll just softly bounce of and walk on their way.....
Anyway I've numebered the above so you can refer to them easily. Discuss.
It's not broken. It's "Carbon Neutral".
gone
1993 Defender 110 ute "Doris"
1994 Range Rover Vogue LSE "The Luxo-Barge"
1994 Defender 130 HCPU "Rolly"
1996 Discovery 1
current
1995 Defender 130 HCPU and Suzuki GSX1400
Master
4 and 6 for me.As i've said before it must have some defender styling cues.
TopicToaster
No. 6. BUT, appearance is one thing, what is going to be under the bonnet?
Pickles.
RoverLord
What disturbs me is that the only thing everyone is worrying about is the styling! Far more important is the construction and mechanical details.Originally Posted by Pickles2
John
John
JDNSW
1986 110 County 3.9 diesel
1970 2a 109 2.25 petrol
YarnMaster
Airbags... Why can't they fit them?
I can't be arsed reading through all the "Land rover must do this... blah... blah..", "Why can't Land Rover do that... Blah... Blah...", so apologies if it has already been mentioned.
If you fit airbags, you're also going to have to fit a bonded windscreen. Without that, the windscreen will pop due to the displacement of air inside the car, when the airbag deploys (That's why the 300TDi Disco & soft dash classic went to a bonded screen).
To fit a bonded screen, it's going to need a redesign of the bulkhead. Redesign the bulkhead & where do you stop. You're also going to have to jump through all of the crash test, conformance, blah, blah...
IMHO - It just opens one big can of worms!!!
M
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SubscriberTo me #1 looks like a LR roof put on a Mahindra.....
It's not broken. It's "Carbon Neutral".
gone
1993 Defender 110 ute "Doris"
1994 Range Rover Vogue LSE "The Luxo-Barge"
1994 Defender 130 HCPU "Rolly"
1996 Discovery 1
current
1995 Defender 130 HCPU and Suzuki GSX1400
Master
Gentlemen,
Styling is one thing, like JD says, but what defender stands for is capability.
I want a solid axle, long-travel suspension, powerful, rugged, pussy magnet that I can fill with tools, sheep, children, women, spoils of war etc that runs on ****ing diesel that I can drive into and out of a swamp and still be able to operate the windows.
If it did all that from factory I'd be happy to buy one. I have faith in land rover, they usually get it fairly right, IMO
ForumSage
Airbags... Why can't they fit them?
I can't be arsed reading through all the "Land rover must do this... blah... blah..", "Why can't Land Rover do that... Blah... Blah...", so apologies if it has already been mentioned.
If you fit airbags, you're also going to have to fit a bonded windscreen. Without that, the windscreen will pop due to the displacement of air inside the car, when the airbag deploys (That's why the 300TDi Disco & soft dash classic went to a bonded screen).
To fit a bonded screen, it's going to need a redesign of the bulkhead. Redesign the bulkhead & where do you stop. You're also going to have to jump through all of the crash test, conformance, blah, blah...
IMHO - It just opens one big can of worms!!!
M
I don't beleive it's a "can't" thing. It's more the sane limit of add-ons you can apply to a design that never allowed for them. The bonded windscreen is only the start.
It wouldn't be that hard to fit airbags and stability control. But at some point there needs to be a clean start and a redesign. Instead of tying up all your design and engineering staff trying to incorporate fixes and updates into the old design, get them cranking on the new design that will more easily deal with all of the future challenges.
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