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    110 SUSPENSION UPGRADE?

    Hi all.

    Just fitted a camper back to the 110 ute. Driving home revealed a few sphincter raising moments especially at round a bouts.
    09 110 ute 61ks, how can I improve the suspension so it doesn't want to fall over when cornering and wander about the freeway like an old rangie.
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    gasman.
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    Possibly you need to load the trailer better? I have a 90, it will seasaw heaps if I incorrectly load a trailer. Might be worth a play with if you can, would be much cheaper.

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    Its a camper body fitted to the chassis of the 110. Weighs around 500kgs, i think.
    1991 2 door Disco (current)
    2012 Puma ute
    2007 D3
    1976 2 door RR
    1977 2 door RR
    1972 FORD XY 4X4
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    130 Rear suspension?

    Or poly-airs if it's temporary. Have you got the rear sway bar fitted?

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    Quote Originally Posted by MR LR View Post
    130 Rear suspension?

    Or poly-airs if it's temporary. Have you got the rear sway bar fitted?
    Rear sway bar? tell me more, please
    1991 2 door Disco (current)
    2012 Puma ute
    2007 D3
    1976 2 door RR
    1977 2 door RR
    1972 FORD XY 4X4
    + 70 other vehicles and trucks

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    110 wagons have them I think? So I assumed utes do, or maybe it's just fronts on the wagons. I really don't know.

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    As you can probably tell from my avatar, I have a slide-on camper on a 110.

    It weighs about 350kg empty and has two thirds of the weight in the front one third of the camper, so it is one of the better designs available and may not cause as much alarm as yours.

    I needed new shocks, so I fitted Bilsteins and I believe that they significantly reduce the sway in some circumstances.

    I later fitted Firestone air bags and run 20 psi when the camper is fitted and the recommended 5 psi when empty. They also considerably reduced the sway.

    However my main reason for fitting the air bags was that there are several hills on the way into Bendethera Valley with eco drains. Before I fitted the air bags, it was a tricky balancing act getting the speed right. A couple of km/h too slow and I had to go back to second low all the way up the hill.

    If I went a couple of km/h too fast, I could easily maintain third low, but the rear suspension was likely to bottom out over the eco drain. I can now easily maintain the speed needed to hold third with no risk of bottoming the suspension.

    The combination of the air bags and good shocks made a huge difference. I think the air bags probably gave a greater improvement than the shocks.

    In both cases I bought from the USA because even with the freight, the price was exactly half the price in Australia.

    1973 Series III LWB 1983 - 2006
    1998 300 Tdi Defender Trayback 2006 - often fitted with a Trayon slide-on camper.

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    My bad.... thought you meant a trailer.

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    The above advice is pretty sound IMO - but if you really really want to get it under control I'd go even further and run twin Bilsiens in the rear, upgraded springs and Polyairs to boot. I carry a lot more weight into 110 wagon than you're talking about (including some high CoG stuff, like a RTT) and this set up keeps it all nicely under control.

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    The fact that its wandering would be more of a concern to me than the cornering as it may indicate that camper CofG is aft of the rear axle and taking weight off the front wheels.

    If it was me I'd be trying to weigh it with and without the camper to see how the camper affects the axle weights. Do you have access to a friendly weigh bridge? If there's a public weigh bridge close to you have a chat to them as they may let you weigh for free if you don't need a certificate.
    Alternatively, if its a commercial camper the manufacturer should be able to tell you where the C of G is.

    Helper airbags (Polyair or Firestone coil-rite) definitely made a big difference to the body roll when loaded on my County.

    Steve
    1985 County - Isuzu 4bd1 with HX30W turbo, LT95, 255/85-16 KM2's
    1988 120 with rust and potential
    1999 300tdi 130 single cab - "stock as bro"
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